Mauser 1939 - 30 Luger

mwgreen00 · 11-03-2010, 09:06 PM

Can anyone point me in the right direction? I would like to find out more about this gun.

It was manufactured by Mauser and has 1939 stamped on the barrel. It chambers a 30 Luger.

Below are some pictures.

[The pictures were posted on another site and were taking too long to load, so I moved them into a post below]

sheepherder · 11-04-2010, 08:12 AM

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pitsword · 11-04-2010, 11:33 AM

Welcome to the forum. Question. Would a 1939 Mauser have straw parts? Or does the Banner mean that it is a commercial model?

Ron Smith · 11-04-2010, 11:56 AM

A 1939 Luger would not have strawed parts. Strawing was discontinued in early '37. My guess is that it was rebarreled and refinished at some point.

Is there a serial number on the bottom of the barrel?

Edward Tinker · 11-04-2010, 11:57 AM

pits, I am trying to remember the same thing, plus in 30 luger?

There were a few made, so...

mwgreen00 · 11-04-2010, 07:15 PM

I think I am doing this correctly...

mwgreen00 · 11-04-2010, 07:16 PM

The last of my pictures.

mwgreen00 · 11-04-2010, 07:24 PM

Thank you pitsword

The trigger, magazine release, safety, and the take down lever are almost gold or brass in color. I am guessing those are "straw parts".

mwgreen00 · 11-04-2010, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Smith

A 1939 Luger would not have strawed parts. Strawing was discontinued in early '37. My guess is that it was rebarreled and refinished at some point.

Is there a serial number on the bottom of the barrel?

The serial number on the bottom of the barrel is 5751. The top of the barrel says 1939.

SteveM · 11-05-2010, 05:39 AM

Being a commercial banner, it is possible for this to have come from mauser with the strawed parts. The holster looks to ba commercial also.

Steve

Ron Smith · 11-05-2010, 08:26 AM

According to Jan Still's Third Reich Lugers, Banner Commercials were made in 7.65, and with strawed parts. This could very well be a correct Banner Commercial.

I should have checked before I spoke. Is there a letter suffix under the serial number on the front of the frame?

Ron

lugerholsterrepair · 11-05-2010, 10:30 AM

Steve..The holster looks to ba commercial also.

Why have you come to that conclusion?

Jerry Burney

mwgreen00 · 11-05-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Smith

According to Jan Still's Third Reich Lugers, Banner Commercials were made in 7.65, and with strawed parts. This could very well be a correct Banner Commercial.

I should have checked before I spoke. Is there a letter suffix under the serial number on the front of the frame?

Ron

There is a "W" on the frame under the serial number.

mwgreen00 · 11-05-2010, 06:29 PM

I just noticed some markings on the back of the holster... see the picture below. It is stamped with "KOLN-DEUTZ 1936" There are some other markings, but I can't make them out.

FNorm · 11-05-2010, 07:58 PM

See TRL, pg 220. Could it be a Mauser commercial, var. 6?

FN

SteveM · 11-06-2010, 05:54 AM

Jerry,

Didn't see any markings from the first set of pics, obviously now not a commercial.

Edward Tinker · 11-06-2010, 06:02 AM

Stve, you mean the holster as it is military, the luger started as a commericial that went into army service.

ed

11-03-2010, 09:06 PM	#1
mwgreen00 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mauser 1939 - 30 Luger Can anyone point me in the right direction? I would like to find out more about this gun. It was manufactured by Mauser and has 1939 stamped on the barrel. It chambers a 30 Luger. Below are some pictures. [The pictures were posted on another site and were taking too long to load, so I moved them into a post below] Last edited by mwgreen00; 11-05-2010 at 06:26 PM.

11-04-2010, 08:12 AM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	Hello and Welcome mwgreen00!!! Here is a basic problem: linking pics off-site. It is requested that you post your pics on-site so that they endure over time... The very people who can answer your questions are the people behind corporate firewalls that block pics (and even certain sites). There are other knowledgeable people who still retain dial-up connections (rural areas for instance) and can't wait 10 minutes for overlarge pics to load. This site will accept large pics (to an extent) and resize them in-thread. Posting the pics to LugerForums also assures that they will show up as part of the web page. Good luck and we all hope you enjoy this site! __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

11-04-2010, 11:56 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	A 1939 Luger would not have strawed parts. Strawing was discontinued in early '37. My guess is that it was rebarreled and refinished at some point. Is there a serial number on the bottom of the barrel? __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-04-2010, 11:57 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	pits, I am trying to remember the same thing, plus in 30 luger? There were a few made, so... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-04-2010, 07:15 PM	#6
mwgreen00 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This time with pictures hosted on LugerForum.com I think I am doing this correctly... Attached Thumbnails

11-04-2010, 11:33 AM	#3
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,885 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Welcome to the forum. Question. Would a 1939 Mauser have straw parts? Or does the Banner mean that it is a commercial model?

11-04-2010, 07:16 PM	#7
mwgreen00 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	...And a few more The last of my pictures. Attached Thumbnails

11-04-2010, 07:24 PM	#8
mwgreen00 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you pitsword The trigger, magazine release, safety, and the take down lever are almost gold or brass in color. I am guessing those are "straw parts".

11-05-2010, 05:39 AM	#10
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Being a commercial banner, it is possible for this to have come from mauser with the strawed parts. The holster looks to ba commercial also. Steve

11-05-2010, 08:26 AM	#11
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	According to Jan Still's Third Reich Lugers, Banner Commercials were made in 7.65, and with strawed parts. This could very well be a correct Banner Commercial. I should have checked before I spoke. Is there a letter suffix under the serial number on the front of the frame? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-05-2010, 10:30 AM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Steve..The holster looks to ba commercial also. Why have you come to that conclusion? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-05-2010, 06:29 PM	#14
mwgreen00 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another thing I just noticed some markings on the back of the holster... see the picture below. It is stamped with "KOLN-DEUTZ 1936" There are some other markings, but I can't make them out. Attached Thumbnails

11-05-2010, 07:58 PM	#15
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	See TRL, pg 220. Could it be a Mauser commercial, var. 6? FN

11-06-2010, 05:54 AM	#16
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Jerry, Didn't see any markings from the first set of pics, obviously now not a commercial.

11-06-2010, 06:02 AM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Stve, you mean the holster as it is military, the luger started as a commericial that went into army service. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV