Younger collector in need of some help.

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 02:04 PM

Hello all,

I am new to Lugers and there history I have been eager to purchase a luger but there prices are so high. I am about to pull the trigger and purchase a 1940 s/42 marked pistol all matching minus the magazine finish looks original with holster wear on the barrel. All numbers match but one thing those me off on the back side of the frame there are a set of numbers starting with I don't have a picture of that. The walnut grips have a nice fit and they also look original. The guy who works at a gun shop also my friend is holding it for me until I can find out more information. From the pictures I took and the information I have would you guys see this pistol being worth 1900$? All eagles and swatzikas are present no pean outs. The bore looks to be in good shape just needs a good cleaning, and I think she would shine right up.
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Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 02:06 PM

pics removed. I will repost when I take possesion of Pistol.

DavidJayUden · 07-15-2013, 02:23 PM

Welcome aboard!
I did not understand your concerns about the back of the frame. Can you clarify, as it may be very important to the value?
Overall at first glance it looks like a nice gun. Actually very nice.
Assuming that all numbers match except the magazine, and also assuming that there is no other damage or problems, the gun, as is without holster, is, to me, not worth $1900. I'd put the gun alone at about $1500. But at $1900 it will be a very long time before you feel like you are not under-water. On the other hand the finish is way above average.
Others may disagree, so let's see...
dju

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 02:31 PM

On the actual back strap of the pistol there were a set of numbers four to be exact. My friend told me these were purchase numbers? It's original to the pistol for sure maybe someone with a 1940 s/42 marked pistol can clarify.

alanint · 07-15-2013, 02:28 PM

I agree with David. A nice, original Mauser the shop is asking too much for. $1,500 would also be my top dollar, assuming that the other stamped number you did not present in no way detracts from value.

alanint · 07-15-2013, 02:56 PM

With a pistol of this vintage my first thought would be a rack number for a location where it may have been in inventory.

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 03:03 PM

I really want to pick this luger up. I'm going to see if can talk him down to 1500 my gut feeling even tells me that 1900 is a little high

Ron Smith · 07-15-2013, 03:04 PM

Does the number on the back strap have an "N" above it?

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 03:10 PM

Yes! I remember the N

Norme · 07-15-2013, 03:35 PM

Hi Ryan, If the number looks like the one in the picture, you should run, not walk, over to the gun shop and buy it! That Luger is a rare Navy variation and is worth about $1,000.00 more.
Regards, Norm

Ben M. · 07-15-2013, 03:44 PM

if you live near a cabelas store, you might look at their gun room. here is what they list on their web site at all of their store locations. many listings $ 1500 or less and if you live near one, you might be able to see them in-hand.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/searc...=luger&x=0&y=0

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 03:50 PM

It's on hold for me. And the N with the numbers is spot on. So needless to say I think I will grab this.

DavidJayUden · 07-15-2013, 04:14 PM

Congratulations!
Once it is in hand send more photos.
dju

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 04:26 PM

Just got off the phone putting a deposit down tomorrow. The search is over!

mrerick · 07-15-2013, 04:35 PM

Ka Ching! Congratulations on something very special...

Marc

kzullick · 07-15-2013, 04:44 PM

Congratulations! And welcome!

ripcord810 · 07-15-2013, 05:47 PM

Sounds as if you have found a great buy, congradulations!

jonnyc · 07-15-2013, 07:03 PM

Might just be my computer, but the barrel appears to be a bit too shiny, and not matching the look of the rest of the pistol.

Cheesy411 · 07-15-2013, 09:37 PM

Its the bright lighting in the shop.

Ron Smith · 07-15-2013, 10:44 PM

The owner of the last shop I worked at bought a 1940 /42 Navy Luger not long ago cheap. He sold it at Reno for $3500 as soon as he put it out on the table. This one is in better condition than his was.

Congratulations!

07-15-2013, 02:04 PM	#1
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Younger collector in need of some help. Hello all, I am new to Lugers and there history I have been eager to purchase a luger but there prices are so high. I am about to pull the trigger and purchase a 1940 s/42 marked pistol all matching minus the magazine finish looks original with holster wear on the barrel. All numbers match but one thing those me off on the back side of the frame there are a set of numbers starting with I don't have a picture of that. The walnut grips have a nice fit and they also look original. The guy who works at a gun shop also my friend is holding it for me until I can find out more information. From the pictures I took and the information I have would you guys see this pistol being worth 1900$? All eagles and swatzikas are present no pean outs. The bore looks to be in good shape just needs a good cleaning, and I think she would shine right up. [ Last edited by Cheesy411; 07-17-2013 at 06:24 PM. Reason: pic removal

07-15-2013, 02:06 PM	#2
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	pics removed. I will repost when I take possesion of Pistol. Last edited by Cheesy411; 07-17-2013 at 06:30 PM.

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Does the number on the back strap have an "N" above it? __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-15-2013, 03:35 PM	#10
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Ryan, If the number looks like the one in the picture, you should run, not walk, over to the gun shop and buy it! That Luger is a rare Navy variation and is worth about $1,000.00 more. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

07-15-2013, 04:35 PM	#15
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Ka Ching! Congratulations on something very special... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-15-2013, 02:23 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Welcome aboard! I did not understand your concerns about the back of the frame. Can you clarify, as it may be very important to the value? Overall at first glance it looks like a nice gun. Actually very nice. Assuming that all numbers match except the magazine, and also assuming that there is no other damage or problems, the gun, as is without holster, is, to me, not worth $1900. I'd put the gun alone at about $1500. But at $1900 it will be a very long time before you feel like you are not under-water. On the other hand the finish is way above average. Others may disagree, so let's see... dju

07-15-2013, 02:31 PM	#4
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	On the actual back strap of the pistol there were a set of numbers four to be exact. My friend told me these were purchase numbers? It's original to the pistol for sure maybe someone with a 1940 s/42 marked pistol can clarify.

07-15-2013, 02:28 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I agree with David. A nice, original Mauser the shop is asking too much for. $1,500 would also be my top dollar, assuming that the other stamped number you did not present in no way detracts from value.

07-15-2013, 02:56 PM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	With a pistol of this vintage my first thought would be a rack number for a location where it may have been in inventory.

07-15-2013, 03:03 PM	#7
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	I really want to pick this luger up. I'm going to see if can talk him down to 1500 my gut feeling even tells me that 1900 is a little high

07-15-2013, 03:10 PM	#9
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Yes! I remember the N

07-15-2013, 03:44 PM	#11
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 476 Thanks: 84 Thanked 118 Times in 79 Posts	if you live near a cabelas store, you might look at their gun room. here is what they list on their web site at all of their store locations. many listings $ 1500 or less and if you live near one, you might be able to see them in-hand. http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/searc...=luger&x=0&y=0

07-15-2013, 03:50 PM	#12
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	It's on hold for me. And the N with the numbers is spot on. So needless to say I think I will grab this.

07-15-2013, 04:14 PM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Congratulations! Once it is in hand send more photos. dju

07-15-2013, 04:26 PM	#14
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Just got off the phone putting a deposit down tomorrow. The search is over!

07-15-2013, 04:44 PM	#16
kzullick Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: East Berwick, Pennsylvania Posts: 227 Thanks: 614 Thanked 100 Times in 81 Posts	Congratulations! And welcome!

07-15-2013, 05:47 PM	#17
ripcord810 User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 139 Thanks: 146 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	Sounds as if you have found a great buy, congradulations!

07-15-2013, 07:03 PM	#18
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Might just be my computer, but the barrel appears to be a bit too shiny, and not matching the look of the rest of the pistol.

07-15-2013, 09:37 PM	#19
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 74 Thanks: 26 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Its the bright lighting in the shop.

07-15-2013, 10:44 PM	#20
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The owner of the last shop I worked at bought a 1940 /42 Navy Luger not long ago cheap. He sold it at Reno for $3500 as soon as he put it out on the table. This one is in better condition than his was. Congratulations! __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...