should I buy

mtime7 · 02-29-2012, 11:22 PM

This is I believe a 1937 Luger, The owner says non matching, but he is a dealer and not a Luger expert.. I saw it about 6 months ago, it looked in shooter shape but he didn't have a price, but talked to him today and he said $600 shipped, what do you think? Is it a buy[IMG]

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mtime7 · 02-29-2012, 11:22 PM

padredan · 02-29-2012, 11:43 PM

looks good, matching or not, i would say a buy.

Hugo Borchardt · 02-29-2012, 11:44 PM

Joe:

The barrel and magazine are replacements, which can both be good for a shooter. If it shoots safely, $600 shipped is IMHO a good price for a shooter luger! I had a similar one a couple years back, a DDR, and I put black plastic VOPO grips on it. Looked great and was a great shooter. Don't know why I let it go, but I got a lot more than $600 for it.

Clark

Curly1 · 02-29-2012, 11:45 PM

Jump on it

mtime7 · 02-29-2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt

Joe:

The barrel and magazine are replacements, which can both be good for a shooter. If it shoots safely, $600 shipped is IMHO a good price for a shooter luger! I had a similar one a couple years back, a DDR, and I put black plastic VOPO grips on it. Looked great and was a great shooter. Don't know why I let it go.

Clark

just for my info, why are the barrel and mag replacements?
Is it the barrel length?

mtime7 · 02-29-2012, 11:54 PM

another question, what is the value on a 85%, I think 1917, matching artillary model

padredan · 02-29-2012, 11:55 PM

yes, the mag looks likea 40.00 meggar.

Hugo Borchardt · 02-29-2012, 11:59 PM

Because of the long barrel length and newer barrel finish I'm fairly certain it is a replacement. I'd bet the barrel doesn't have a serial number on the bottom of it. It's a WWII numbered in the military style, so the original barrel was the shorter 4" regulation to fit in a regulation holster. I think from the "P.08" on the side it is a Mauser. Is there a "BYF" or Mauser Banner on the toggle?

The mag is likely a MecGar or similar aftermarket, usually good for shooting but not original. You can tell because of the black plastic bottom with Navy concentric circles on it.

Hope this helps!

mtime7 · 03-01-2012, 12:05 AM

Thanks for the info guys

TheRomanhistorian · 03-01-2012, 12:22 AM

Definitely a buy and it looks fun, too. $600 is a rather good deal if all is fully functional.

alvin · 03-01-2012, 07:30 AM

I think that depends. If you don't have a Luger, and want to have some fun in range, $600 is not big money, buy it.

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[Edit] The book value is $400 (not working) to $500 (working). Book value is usually conservative though.

DavidJayUden · 03-01-2012, 08:38 AM

IMHO the 6" barrel makes it the perfect shooter. Increased sight distance for finer aiming and also better balance.
Double check around the front sight for year dates stamped into the base, just in case it is a Navy barrel, but I'm thinking it is not.
$600 is very reasonable, and you can put some lipstick on it (grips, re-blue, etc.) if you so desire.
dju

alanint · 03-01-2012, 08:45 AM

Nice gun for the money!!

It looks like one of the Numrich Arms barrels offered years ago. I would not reblue. Perhaps a nice set of repro grips and I would be good to go!

lugerholsterrepair · 03-01-2012, 10:25 AM

I talked to a guy yesterday who had one exactly like this in Kansas..after talking a few minutes I discovered even though the pistol was a Military... the barrel was .30 Luger!
Like this one the barrel had been changed but to .30

mtime7 · 03-01-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

I talked to a guy yesterday who had one exactly like this in Kansas..after talking a few minutes I discovered even though the pistol was a Military... the barrel was .30 Luger!
Like this one the barrel had been changed but to .30

well I hope that is not the case, he assured me it was in 9mm..

mtime7 · 03-01-2012, 11:39 AM

well I decided to send him a check this morning on my way into work.. Thanks for all the help with the decision.. I will take some detailed pics when I get it and have a range report. I think I will take my newly aquired US Property marked Colt 1903 hammerless with me when this Luger goes to the range

mtime7 · 03-01-2012, 04:16 PM

I gave the man a phone call this morning before I sent the check, and had him do the pencil test, it passed. He also told me there is a serial # on the barrel but doesn't match the gun..

lugerholsterrepair · 03-01-2012, 04:34 PM

Yes, I wouldn't expect the barrel to match as it is a Military pistol with an aftermarket barrel.

tbone176 · 03-02-2012, 12:21 AM

Hi all..I'm new to the forum..What is the "pencil test"..Thanks

02-29-2012, 11:22 PM	#1
mtime7 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	should I buy This is I believe a 1937 Luger, The owner says non matching, but he is a dealer and not a Luger expert.. I saw it about 6 months ago, it looked in shooter shape but he didn't have a price, but talked to him today and he said $600 shipped, what do you think? Is it a buy[IMG][/IMG]

02-29-2012, 11:43 PM	#3
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	looks good, matching or not, i would say a buy. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-29-2012, 11:44 PM	#4
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	Joe: The barrel and magazine are replacements, which can both be good for a shooter. If it shoots safely, $600 shipped is IMHO a good price for a shooter luger! I had a similar one a couple years back, a DDR, and I put black plastic VOPO grips on it. Looked great and was a great shooter. Don't know why I let it go, but I got a lot more than $600 for it. Clark __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

02-29-2012, 11:45 PM	#5
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,229 Thanks: 111 Thanked 702 Times in 364 Posts	Jump on it __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

02-29-2012, 11:55 PM	#8
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	yes, the mag looks likea 40.00 meggar. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-29-2012, 11:54 PM	#7
mtime7 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	another question, what is the value on a 85%, I think 1917, matching artillary model

02-29-2012, 11:59 PM	#9
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	Because of the long barrel length and newer barrel finish I'm fairly certain it is a replacement. I'd bet the barrel doesn't have a serial number on the bottom of it. It's a WWII numbered in the military style, so the original barrel was the shorter 4" regulation to fit in a regulation holster. I think from the "P.08" on the side it is a Mauser. Is there a "BYF" or Mauser Banner on the toggle? The mag is likely a MecGar or similar aftermarket, usually good for shooting but not original. You can tell because of the black plastic bottom with Navy concentric circles on it. Hope this helps! __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

03-01-2012, 12:05 AM	#10
mtime7 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the info guys

03-01-2012, 12:22 AM	#11
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	Definitely a buy and it looks fun, too. $600 is a rather good deal if all is fully functional. __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

03-01-2012, 07:30 AM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I think that depends. If you don't have a Luger, and want to have some fun in range, $600 is not big money, buy it. === [Edit] The book value is $400 (not working) to $500 (working). Book value is usually conservative though.

03-01-2012, 08:38 AM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	IMHO the 6" barrel makes it the perfect shooter. Increased sight distance for finer aiming and also better balance. Double check around the front sight for year dates stamped into the base, just in case it is a Navy barrel, but I'm thinking it is not. $600 is very reasonable, and you can put some lipstick on it (grips, re-blue, etc.) if you so desire. dju

03-01-2012, 08:45 AM	#14
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Nice gun for the money!! It looks like one of the Numrich Arms barrels offered years ago. I would not reblue. Perhaps a nice set of repro grips and I would be good to go!

03-01-2012, 10:25 AM	#15
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	I talked to a guy yesterday who had one exactly like this in Kansas..after talking a few minutes I discovered even though the pistol was a Military... the barrel was .30 Luger! Like this one the barrel had been changed but to .30 __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-01-2012, 11:39 AM	#17
mtime7 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well I decided to send him a check this morning on my way into work.. Thanks for all the help with the decision.. I will take some detailed pics when I get it and have a range report. I think I will take my newly aquired US Property marked Colt 1903 hammerless with me when this Luger goes to the range

03-01-2012, 04:16 PM	#18
mtime7 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I gave the man a phone call this morning before I sent the check, and had him do the pencil test, it passed. He also told me there is a serial # on the barrel but doesn't match the gun..

03-01-2012, 04:34 PM	#19
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Yes, I wouldn't expect the barrel to match as it is a Military pistol with an aftermarket barrel. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-02-2012, 12:21 AM	#20
tbone176 User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi all..I'm new to the forum..What is the "pencil test"..Thanks