<IMG SRC="/luger/graphics/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)"> For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight and R

John Sabato · 12-07-2001, 12:34 PM

With a starting price of $350.00 (probably reasonable)

Will probably bring quite a bit more than that since this part is hard to come by... but get a load of the hogwash[/u][/i] presented by the seller:

..."Here is your chance to transform your post war converted naval Luger back into it's original war time navy form. The Toggle link is the hardest part to find and makes your $1,200.00 pistol into an original navy worth several thousand dollars."

This piece may be rare, and many would love to make a shooter Navy, but the implication that this would make your ordinary pistol worth Several Thousand Dollars is absolutely ludicrous seller hype.

If that is true why doesn't the seller by a 6" shooter for $1000 or so and create a pistol to sell worth several thousand dollars to maximize the profit! Sheesh, the crap that some folks will fall for!

BTW, there are two other good closeup photos at the auction page... Click the link below...

just my $0.02

-John

(PS Wish I owned it!)

Auction for Navy Rear Sight on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M...98/i-2_B_L.JPG

12-07-2001, 01:10 PM

oh man,,,,,,even worse.....someone (?) just bid $501.00 for the thing, and didnt meet the reserve!!!!!! sheezzzz!!!!

12-07-2001, 01:48 PM

John don't be so hard on the guy! I'm sure he has a reason, uh, well, he uh, oh never mind...

Would look good on my 6 incher, make her into a TRUE collectable then? Gosh, I didn't realize it was so easy, I was under the impression that modifying a gun like that changed them?

Anyway, yes, I'd like it to, but I don't care that much, I'll bet it has a 1,000 reserve. I have it 'watched" on ole e-bay and we'll see what she does.

Ed

tom · 12-07-2001, 02:29 PM

Hmmmmm, mebbe I should consider parting out my Navy collection. Lets see, 15 rear sighta @$1000 each, 15 sets of Grips @ $250-300 each, ....Naaaaaaa, I couldn't do it. Money just *ain't* that important!

FWIW

12-07-2001, 02:34 PM

This guy has the same sight on auction arms at this same time. I ask him---it is the same sight #27.

Big Norm · 12-07-2001, 02:54 PM

Take a close look at the toggle. There is a part missing on the left hand side. I don't know its name. I e-mailed the guy about it and his caustic replay was that he is selling the toggle as pictured. Period. I asked about the hinge pin and the inference was that it is not included. It looks to me like somebodies going to have a worthless hunk of metal for $300+

Big Norm

Big Norm · 12-07-2001, 03:09 PM

Just so that people don't get confused about the missing part, the pin on the top of the toggle is ALSO missing.

Big Norm

John Sabato · 12-07-2001, 03:11 PM

Don · 12-07-2001, 05:19 PM

He does indeed have the same item posted on Auction Arms. Both postings say he reserves the right to cancel the auction -- in other words he intends to follow both auctions and cancel the one that is bringing in lower bids. To me this undermines the value of on-line auctions if sellers are allowed to get away with this.

12-07-2001, 06:12 PM

The missing pin is an L shape pin that holds the recoil link and is flattened on one side to hold keep the sight slide from pulling off the rear. Not a big problem. I don't think a brass monkey could make one----but still not a big deal for me.

12-07-2001, 06:23 PM

Having it on Ebay and Auction Arms. Read Auction Arms terms

and conditions. Number 10

Seller Exclusivity: If a Seller lists an item for sale at Auction Arms, the Seller is contractually obligated to complete the sale of that item if the Reserve Price is met in a Reserve style auction, or if any bids are placed in a Basic style auction. Likewise, if a Seller lists an item with Auction Arms, that Seller agrees that Auction Arms has exclusive rights to sell that item. The Seller is not permitted to list the same item in another venue, or sell the item to a buyer outside of Auction Arms. Failure to complete the sale under those circumstances is cause for negative feedback and/or explusion from Auction Arms. (Dutch auctions are at the sole discretion of the seller.)

12-07-2001, 10:22 PM

Notice the friction part that keeps the sight from sliding too easily is missing. Sure someone tried to remove it and it broke. May be very hard to part to replace.

Lonnie Zimmerman · 12-08-2001, 01:53 AM

I am not a Navy Luger guy, but you guys that spot this stuff IMPRESS THE HELL OUT OF ME!!

Lonnie

Big Norm · 12-08-2001, 05:20 PM

I have heard the expression "Dutch Auction" before. But I don't really know what its means. What is it?

Big Norm

Thor · 12-08-2001, 05:27 PM

I think after you get beat, you are supposed to have a piece of dutch apple pie to console you! Hell, I have always wanted to know too Big Norm! Look forward to the REAL Answer! Thor

BILL · 12-08-2001, 05:56 PM

A Dutch auction is a term for offering multiple numbers of the same item (i.e. 200 paper kites).

Big Norm · 12-10-2001, 05:00 AM

12-07-2001, 12:34 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight and R With a starting price of $350.00 (probably reasonable) Will probably bring quite a bit more than that since this part is hard to come by... but get a load of the hogwash[/u][/i] presented by the seller: ..."Here is your chance to transform your post war converted naval Luger back into it's original war time navy form. The Toggle link is the hardest part to find and *makes your $1,200.00 pistol into an original navy worth several thousand dollars." This piece may be rare, and many would love to make a shooter Navy, but the implication that this would make your ordinary pistol worth Several Thousand Dollars* is absolutely ludicrous seller hype. If that is true why doesn't the seller by a 6" shooter for $1000 or so and create a pistol to sell worth several thousand dollars to maximize the profit! Sheesh, the crap that some folks will fall for! BTW, there are two other good closeup photos at the auction page... Click the link below... just my $0.02 -John (PS Wish I owned it!) Auction for Navy Rear Sight on eBay http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M...98/i-2_B_L.JPG

12-07-2001, 01:48 PM	#3
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight a John don't be so hard on the guy! I'm sure he has a reason, uh, well, he uh, oh never mind... Would look good on my 6 incher, make her into a TRUE collectable then? Gosh, I didn't realize it was so easy, I was under the impression that modifying a gun like that changed them? Anyway, yes, I'd like it to, but I don't care that much, I'll bet it has a 1,000 reserve. I have it 'watched" on ole e-bay and we'll see what she does. Ed

12-07-2001, 02:29 PM	#4
tom User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight a Hmmmmm, mebbe I should consider parting out my Navy collection. Lets see, 15 rear sighta @$1000 each, 15 sets of Grips @ $250-300 each, ....Naaaaaaa, I couldn't do it. Money just ain't that important! FWIW

12-07-2001, 02:34 PM	#5
Art Buchanan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight a This guy has the same sight on auction arms at this same time. I ask him---it is the same sight #27.

12-07-2001, 02:54 PM	#6
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	MISSING PART Take a close look at the toggle. There is a part missing on the left hand side. I don't know its name. I e-mailed the guy about it and his caustic replay was that he is selling the toggle as pictured. Period. I asked about the hinge pin and the inference was that it is not included. It looks to me like somebodies going to have a worthless hunk of metal for $300+ Big Norm

12-07-2001, 01:10 PM	#2
bh Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight a oh man,,,,,,even worse.....someone (?) just bid $501.00 for the thing, and didnt meet the reserve!!!!!! sheezzzz!!!!

12-07-2001, 03:09 PM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: MISSING PART Just so that people don't get confused about the missing part, the pin on the top of the toggle is ALSO missing. Big Norm

12-07-2001, 03:11 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	thanks NORM - Preciate it! (EOM)

12-07-2001, 05:19 PM	#9
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight a He does indeed have the same item posted on Auction Arms. Both postings say he reserves the right to cancel the auction -- in other words he intends to follow both auctions and cancel the one that is bringing in lower bids. To me this undermines the value of on-line auctions if sellers are allowed to get away with this.

12-07-2001, 06:12 PM	#10
Art Buchanan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For those so inclined: Navy Rear Sight a The missing pin is an L shape pin that holds the recoil link and is flattened on one side to hold keep the sight slide from pulling off the rear. Not a big problem. I don't think a brass monkey could make one----but still not a big deal for me.

12-07-2001, 06:23 PM	#11
tracy p Guest Posts: n/a	Auction Arm Violation Having it on Ebay and Auction Arms. Read Auction Arms terms and conditions. Number 10 Seller Exclusivity: If a Seller lists an item for sale at Auction Arms, the Seller is contractually obligated to complete the sale of that item if the Reserve Price is met in a Reserve style auction, or if any bids are placed in a Basic style auction. Likewise, if a Seller lists an item with Auction Arms, that Seller agrees that Auction Arms has exclusive rights to sell that item. The Seller is not permitted to list the same item in another venue, or sell the item to a buyer outside of Auction Arms. Failure to complete the sale under those circumstances is cause for negative feedback and/or explusion from Auction Arms. (Dutch auctions are at the sole discretion of the seller.)

12-07-2001, 10:22 PM	#12
jmarsh5990@aol.com Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Navy sight-missing part Notice the friction part that keeps the sight from sliding too easily is missing. Sure someone tried to remove it and it broke. May be very hard to part to replace.

12-08-2001, 01:53 AM	#13
Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Auction Arm Violation I am not a Navy Luger guy, but you guys that spot this stuff IMPRESS THE HELL OUT OF ME!! Lonnie

12-08-2001, 05:20 PM	#14
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	DUTCH AUCTION ???? I have heard the expression "Dutch Auction" before. But I don't really know what its means. What is it? Big Norm

12-08-2001, 05:27 PM	#15
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: DUTCH AUCTION ???? I think after you get beat, you are supposed to have a piece of dutch apple pie to console you! Hell, I have always wanted to know too Big Norm! Look forward to the REAL Answer! Thor

12-08-2001, 05:56 PM	#16
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: DUTCH AUCTION ???? A Dutch auction is a term for offering multiple numbers of the same item (i.e. 200 paper kites).

12-10-2001, 05:00 AM	#17
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	STILL CONFUSED?? (EOM)