Weak Hold-Open Feature...

Pete Ebbink · 08-20-2002, 11:27 PM

One of my luger shooters has a rather inconsistent hold-open feature. Some times the toggle stays fully open when the original magazine is empty but other times the toggle does not catch in its full recoil position.

I think the problem may exist at the top of the magazine, on the right side, where it contacts the hold-open lever.

The problem goes away completely when I replace the shooter's magazine with a "new" 1970's Mauser magazine...

Can anyone give me some tips to "fix" my old magazine ?

Thanks !!! <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Herb · 08-20-2002, 11:56 PM

Pete, I have the same problem with one of mine. I have found that the magazine follower does not operated smoothly. By squeezing the magazine, front to rear, the follower will snap into position which indicates to me that it is binding on the sides. I am still working on this, if I can find a simple solution I will post it here. At first I thought it was the spring on the holdopen device, but after trying different mags, that is not the case. If you solve it first let me know.

Hugh · 08-21-2002, 01:02 AM

Pete,

Your magazine spring is probably weakened from age and use. Replace it with a new "10 per cent plus" spring from Wolff and I bet it will solve your problem. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />

Dwight Gruber · 08-21-2002, 02:56 AM

Oddly enough I have the opposite problem--I have one aftermarket magazine which operates the holdopen on the -next- to the last shot! I shoot with a handful of magazines, so I haven't gotten around to tracking this problem down yet...

--Dwight

Karl · 08-21-2002, 07:45 PM

Pete,

There are undoubtedly countless things that could be wrong with a magazine and I'm sure that you have eliminated the obvious. I had a brand new Mec Gar magazine that failed to engage the hold open consistently. After much fussing I discovered that the forward edge of the follower button (the button that pushes the hold open up) was scraping against the slot for it in the frame. Lightly filing it down fixed the problem. You might try checking the magazine out with the right grip removed. KFS

Pete Ebbink · 08-21-2002, 09:23 PM

Hello All,

Thanks so much for all your great replies.

I will be home in a few days and will work on this with your suggestions...can't wait to get this solved.

Appreciatively,

Pete

08-20-2002, 11:27 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Weak Hold-Open Feature... One of my luger shooters has a rather inconsistent hold-open feature. Some times the toggle stays fully open when the original magazine is empty but other times the toggle does not catch in its full recoil position. I think the problem may exist at the top of the magazine, on the right side, where it contacts the hold-open lever. The problem goes away completely when I replace the shooter's magazine with a "new" 1970's Mauser magazine... Can anyone give me some tips to "fix" my old magazine ? Thanks !!! <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

08-20-2002, 11:56 PM	#2
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Pete, I have the same problem with one of mine. I have found that the magazine follower does not operated smoothly. By squeezing the magazine, front to rear, the follower will snap into position which indicates to me that it is binding on the sides. I am still working on this, if I can find a simple solution I will post it here. At first I thought it was the spring on the holdopen device, but after trying different mags, that is not the case. If you solve it first let me know. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-21-2002, 01:02 AM	#3
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Pete, Your magazine spring is probably weakened from age and use. Replace it with a new "10 per cent plus" spring from Wolff and I bet it will solve your problem. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

08-21-2002, 02:56 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Oddly enough I have the opposite problem--I have one aftermarket magazine which operates the holdopen on the -next- to the last shot! I shoot with a handful of magazines, so I haven't gotten around to tracking this problem down yet... --Dwight

08-21-2002, 07:45 PM	#5
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 239 Times in 111 Posts	Pete, There are undoubtedly countless things that could be wrong with a magazine and I'm sure that you have eliminated the obvious. I had a brand new Mec Gar magazine that failed to engage the hold open consistently. After much fussing I discovered that the forward edge of the follower button (the button that pushes the hold open up) was scraping against the slot for it in the frame. Lightly filing it down fixed the problem. You might try checking the magazine out with the right grip removed. KFS

08-21-2002, 09:23 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello All, Thanks so much for all your great replies. I will be home in a few days and will work on this with your suggestions...can't wait to get this solved. Appreciatively, Pete