1920 American eagles

jbbushdog · 08-08-2008, 08:24 AM

Hello, All. I have looked around at various Commerical Artillery Lugers and have seen a different barrel length of 7". Are all Artilleries 8"? Are some models, that I have seen, marked with the American Eagle on it, correct ?Are any Artilleries made in 7.65 or just 9mm. I've searched this website but have been unable to find any additional information on these questions. Thanks

George Anderson · 08-08-2008, 08:54 AM

I have seen AE artilleries with barrel lengths from seven inches to twelve inches. Dangerous going.

jbbushdog · 08-08-2008, 09:25 AM

Thanks George for your reply. If you go by the serial number that would give you somewhat the time frame the receiver was made, but not what the original specifications the gun was manufactured to. I think you are right, its a real "jungle" with all the lugersmiths who are out there !!!

Edward Tinker · 08-08-2008, 09:45 AM

Also, many were made up during the 1920's and 1930's from older models, military or civilian, "made to order" by Pacific Arms and other importers.

Even in the 1960's I saw ads where you could order any size barrel to be put onto a luger they had in stock (could be a byf, a dated, a whatever they had).

Ed

Lugerdoc · 08-08-2008, 10:21 AM

BD, As stated above PAC and Stoeger would installed either caliber in lengths from 4" to 22" on their imports in the '20s & '30s for an additional charge. Also the Post WW1 German method of fixing an LPO8 with a "frozen up" fine tune front sight, was to lop off the front 1/2" of barrel at the rear of the front sight base and silver soder on a fixed C96 type front sight, thus the 7&1/2" barrelled artillery. If you're interested in building up your own custom 7.65mm LPO8, I have a new in the white Martz custom 7.65x210mm (8&1/4") Artillery type barrel with original front & rear tangent sights available @$600 + S&H. Lugerdoc at hellerarms@webtv.net

Dwight Gruber · 08-08-2008, 09:54 PM

John,

When examining "Commercial Artillery" variations, be sure to look for the front sight relief notch cut into the top-front of the receiver. In and of itself it is not a guarantee of originality, but its absence is a strong indication that the gun did not originally have an 8-inch Artillery-style barrel.

--Dwight

jbbushdog · 08-08-2008, 11:05 PM

Thanks, Dwight. This helps me to become better informed as to what to expect if I find a gun I might want to purchase.

08-08-2008, 08:24 AM	#1
jbbushdog User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1920 American eagles Hello, All. I have looked around at various Commerical Artillery Lugers and have seen a different barrel length of 7". Are all Artilleries 8"? Are some models, that I have seen, marked with the American Eagle on it, correct ?Are any Artilleries made in 7.65 or just 9mm. I've searched this website but have been unable to find any additional information on these questions. Thanks

08-08-2008, 09:25 AM	#3
jbbushdog User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1920 American Eagles Thanks George for your reply. If you go by the serial number that would give you somewhat the time frame the receiver was made, but not what the original specifications the gun was manufactured to. I think you are right, its a real "jungle" with all the lugersmiths who are out there !!!

08-08-2008, 10:21 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	BD, As stated above PAC and Stoeger would installed either caliber in lengths from 4" to 22" on their imports in the '20s & '30s for an additional charge. Also the Post WW1 German method of fixing an LPO8 with a "frozen up" fine tune front sight, was to lop off the front 1/2" of barrel at the rear of the front sight base and silver soder on a fixed C96 type front sight, thus the 7&1/2" barrelled artillery. If you're interested in building up your own custom 7.65mm LPO8, I have a new in the white Martz custom 7.65x210mm (8&1/4") Artillery type barrel with original front & rear tangent sights available @$600 + S&H. Lugerdoc at hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-08-2008, 11:05 PM	#7
jbbushdog User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1920 american eagle Thanks, Dwight. This helps me to become better informed as to what to expect if I find a gun I might want to purchase.

08-08-2008, 08:54 AM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,771 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	I have seen AE artilleries with barrel lengths from seven inches to twelve inches. Dangerous going.

08-08-2008, 09:45 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Also, many were made up during the 1920's and 1930's from older models, military or civilian, "made to order" by Pacific Arms and other importers. Even in the 1960's I saw ads where you could order any size barrel to be put onto a luger they had in stock (could be a byf, a dated, a whatever they had). Ed

08-08-2008, 09:54 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	John, When examining "Commercial Artillery" variations, be sure to look for the front sight relief notch cut into the top-front of the receiver. In and of itself it is not a guarantee of originality, but its absence is a strong indication that the gun did not originally have an 8-inch Artillery-style barrel. --Dwight