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Unread 08-10-2004, 01:03 PM   #21
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Holleee smokes!!!! You guys are making feel REALLY old - as I know what you are talking about!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

BTW: Did you ever notice the following correlation???

The younger folks on the Forum look for the '70 Mausers for their collection? (made in the '70s - so they were probably born in the 80s...);

As for me - I was born in the 50s - and I collect Lugers from the '40s...

Ron - well - "If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction.."....

Makes you wonder - doesn't it???



Now - if I can only remember what the point was I was trying to make???

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Unread 08-10-2004, 03:21 PM   #22
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Core Dump!? Is that something new? First, color television, and now this...!
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Unread 08-10-2004, 04:09 PM   #23
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"Core Dump"!!!! Gosh I remember knowing how to read those things on an IBM-360 using my old green card. That was before 'Snap Dumps' which made things easier.I was born in 1940. I guess that is why I like the pre-1918 Lugers like Ron Wood does.

John, I am truely sorry if I gave any impression of hostility in my post. Frustration...Yes. Hostility ...no. The soldiers name engraved on the side of you Luger definately does give the gun some character and a taste of history.

I bought my gun thinking it looked cool. I just thought that it was an armorers 'put together'. But then there was the Russian extractor on it. That has always bothered me. I don't think that a German armorer would have a Russian extractor in his little box of tricks.Your postings has me wondering even more about what I have. I still have to figure out it I have a 30 cal or a 9mm. Except for the Russian extractor markings and the GESICHERT on the read safety, there are no markings on it.

Just to show you my sincere repentance, I begrudgingly will offer to sell it to you for $5,000. A bargain at half the price.
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Unread 08-10-2004, 07:25 PM   #24
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Big Norm:
<strong>...John, I am truely sorry if I gave any impression of hostility in my post. Frustration...Yes. Hostility ...no....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hey Big Norm..!

No apology necessary. Actually - when I read your first post, I certainly wasn't offended - PROMISE..!!! Like a many folks - understanding Post-War is somewhat difficult. Honestly? They are also rejected by several Krieg Collectors as not being 'proper'. I look at them differently. Since they came from the factory, which was subsequently reduced to rubble - they are the last output of Lugers from Krieghoff. As well - given the 3 variations, 2 of those can be tied back (if authenticated) to GIs who fought hard for that right to possess them.

When I write my review on this, it's also most likely I'll share some of the details not in Gibson - about when/how/who actually constructed these, who was in Suhl, who was in the factory, and how the variations came into "being" - sort of a glimpse into history.

Honestly, it's taken a lot of research to potentially present all this - I believe - for the first time, so I hope folks enjoy it. And yes - it will be a "core dump" of information from numerous sources, both public and private. However - it will take some time to prepare for this presentation, as it includes notes scattered about on my end....

As for a correct HK with a GIs name on the side - you'll see why I'll put forward that it's the second variation of the Post-war. Again - any piece will have to be verified, though....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Big Norm:
<strong>......Just to show you my sincere repentance, I begrudgingly will offer to sell it to you for $5,000. A bargain at half the price....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"><img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />

You really are incorrigible..!!!

(Hmmm - what'cha got??!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> )

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">When this piece arrives and I have a chance to go through it and check it over - I'll try to post some further information. ...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">So, new buyer, new home? ey Johnny?



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Unread 08-10-2004, 08:05 PM   #26
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Yep.. I can't wait!!!!

It's on it's way "home".. Wonder how the other HKs will react to it??? Hmmm - I should introduce them slowly - sort of like guppies <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Heh!!!

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Core Dump is still present day computer speak.

The Linux box I am using now will optionally create core.* files when a program crashes.

These can be loaded into the debugger to find out what happened.

This is a legacy aspect of Unix/Linux.
Although it would not suprize me that there is someone out there who has a working vintage core memory connected to a Linux PC!

John, the gun looks like the real deal to me, The engraving appears to be the clincher. (FWIW!), Good luck with your new aquisition.
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Just as a quick update....

This HK is back here, but before I do the "core dump" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> - I'm still looking for Hargus' military records to arrive... What I do know so far is that:

His Serial # was: 34 804 761
Born in Kentucky, 1923
At time of enlistment, he lived in Alabama, County of Talladega and enlisted at: FT McClellan on: 5/01/1943
Education: graduated - 4 Years of High School and he was Married at the time of enlistment. In November 1946, he and his wife had their first child, a Daughter.

However, for all that info I've been able to gather - I still don't have the documents to show which unit he was attached to in the 11th (I do have some initial data, but nothing conclusive - yet). After contacting 3 different US Archives and cutting some paperwork - I'm still looking and waiting. When I have a few more answers- I'll update this thread and work through this PostWar HK for others...

Thanks for your patience!

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