Original? Luger Takedown Tool

triode · 08-23-2014, 09:10 AM

I am new to Luger collecting, and just picked up a matching 1938 S/42. I am looking for an original tool to go with it and found this on Ebay. I been comparing it to other pictures, but can't tell for sure if it is truly original or a fake.

Thanks in advance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231311299992...84.m1423.l2648

SteveM · 08-23-2014, 11:54 AM

Blurry pics, hard to say..

klaus 3338 · 08-23-2014, 01:42 PM

Looks good to me.

triode · 08-26-2014, 12:22 AM

Thank you for the feedback.

Sergio Natali · 08-26-2014, 07:23 AM

I'm not that expert on takedown tools, here there is a lot of them "looking" genuine but quite often they are jus wll mae fakes; but to me this one looks like an original one, is it possible to see a better picture of it?

triode · 09-03-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

I'm not that expert on takedown tools, here there is a lot of them "looking" genuine but quite often they are jus wll mae fakes; but to me this one looks like an original one, is it possible to see a better picture of it?

Here are some better pics; thank you in advance.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-03-2014, 09:59 PM

The one you show here..from these pics I don't like it. Do you have it in hand? There appears to be NO lip in the hole to grasp the follower button and hold the tool onto it for loading. Fake tools are often made this way and they just slip off the button. Could just be the pics but I don't see it. I also suspect the blue/black color and metal texture? Looks painted..I can't see the screwdriver tip well enough either...too dark.

ithacaartist · 09-04-2014, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

The one you show here..from these pics I don't like it. Do you have it in hand? There appears to be NO lip in the hole to grasp the follower button and hold the tool onto it for loading. Fake tools are often made this way and they just slip off the button. Could just be the pics but I don't see it. I also suspect the blue/black color and metal texture? Looks painted..I can't see the screwdriver tip well enough either...too dark.

In the eBay pic, the light is coming from overhead, slightly to the right and behind the tool--check out the shadows... The radius on the bottom of the button hole has a hint of a lip. Compare the edge there to one oriented the same way to the light, the upper right shoulder. eEven when you consider that the button hole, milled, will appear slightly sharper than the stamped edge of the shoulder, there's something more there. None of these photos is particularly revealing, due to bad angles, being out of focus, and glaring light.

klaus 3338 · 09-04-2014, 02:06 AM

I have 6 light different variations of the stick winged eagle with 63. It seems to be the tool with the greatest of the eagle 63 acceptance marks. I have not seen many of this variation but it is with the smallest of them rare. Without a doubt it is original.

John Sabato · 09-04-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

There appears to be NO lip in the hole to grasp the follower button and hold the tool onto it for loading. Fake tools are often made this way and they just slip off the button. Could just be the pics but I don't see it.

Jerry, I think the shadows in the photo are obscuring the view of the "lip"... I tried looking at the photo in high magnification..., and then played with the brightness and contrast, and came up with this. I think the lip is there...

Ron Wood · 09-04-2014, 12:17 PM

John, I tried the same thing and I agree that it appears that there is a "lip"...but man, that has to be the most shallow lip I have seen. I am glad Klaus authenticated it.

Edward Tinker · 09-04-2014, 12:46 PM

yes, if Klaus says its good, well its good

the eagle 63 also was a marking for more years than many other acceptance stamps too I would say?

triode · 09-05-2014, 09:13 PM

Thank you for the info. I checked and there is a lip. Now I know more of what to look for; much appreciated.

08-23-2014, 09:10 AM	#1
triode New User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 4 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Original? Luger Takedown Tool I am new to Luger collecting, and just picked up a matching 1938 S/42. I am looking for an original tool to go with it and found this on Ebay. I been comparing it to other pictures, but can't tell for sure if it is truly original or a fake. Thanks in advance. http://www.ebay.com/itm/231311299992...84.m1423.l2648

08-26-2014, 07:23 AM	#5
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I'm not that expert on takedown tools, here there is a lot of them "looking" genuine but quite often they are jus wll mae fakes; but to me this one looks like an original one, is it possible to see a better picture of it? __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-03-2014, 09:59 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,852 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	The one you show here..from these pics I don't like it. Do you have it in hand? There appears to be NO lip in the hole to grasp the follower button and hold the tool onto it for loading. Fake tools are often made this way and they just slip off the button. Could just be the pics but I don't see it. I also suspect the blue/black color and metal texture? Looks painted..I can't see the screwdriver tip well enough either...too dark. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-04-2014, 12:17 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	John, I tried the same thing and I agree that it appears that there is a "lip"...but man, that has to be the most shallow lip I have seen. I am glad Klaus authenticated it. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-04-2014, 12:46 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	yes, if Klaus says its good, well its good the eagle 63 also was a marking for more years than many other acceptance stamps too I would say? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-23-2014, 11:54 AM	#2
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Blurry pics, hard to say..

08-23-2014, 01:42 PM	#3
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 513 Thanks: 0 Thanked 395 Times in 156 Posts	Looks good to me.

08-26-2014, 12:22 AM	#4
triode New User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 4 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the feedback.

09-04-2014, 02:06 AM	#9
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 513 Thanks: 0 Thanked 395 Times in 156 Posts	I have 6 light different variations of the stick winged eagle with 63. It seems to be the tool with the greatest of the eagle 63 acceptance marks. I have not seen many of this variation but it is with the smallest of them rare. Without a doubt it is original.

09-05-2014, 09:13 PM	#13
triode New User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 4 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the info. I checked and there is a lip. Now I know more of what to look for; much appreciated.