1936 S/42 = "Banner"??? I don't get it...

Zamo · 11-14-2008, 01:30 PM

Here is a link to a 1936 S/42 that I had bid on, but then got out bid.
S/42 on a certain Auction site

It's a nice Luger, but it has gone out of the range I think it's worth.
Despite all that, is there something about the 1936 and earlier Lugers that I'm missing? I remember an old collector friend of mine mentioned something about some Banner lugers being stamped with military stamps, or perhaps it was the other way around, that some were not stamped with Army stamps but were S/42 instead of Banner...

In the case of this example, it looks like a typical S/42 with Army stamps...I don't know where the Seller gets "Banner" from at all, as I certainly don't see a Mauser banner on it where the S/42 is.

Also, do 1936's command a higher price than others? The seem to, I've been trying to get a nice one for several months now, and they keep drifting up out of what I'm comfortable spending. I realize that the strawing makes it more desirable than the later '37's and later (all blued), is that it?

Just curious.

Edward Tinker · 11-14-2008, 04:42 PM

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We believe this to be a Mauser Ã¢??BannerÃ¢?Â model, as it is marked Ã¢??S/42 Ã¢?? 1936Ã¢?Â

They were misinformed; a banner is a Mauser commericial luger, with some having gone into military and some into police service.

Take a look at Third Reich Lugers by Jan Still and you can see the different variations and also Banners.

Ed

Jamka · 11-21-2008, 12:32 PM

Christian,

Your friends may be referring to a small group of commercial Mauser Luger pistols that have S/42 on the toggle instead of a Banner.
These are found between #5216v and #5569v; having 1938 on the chamber and C/U proofs. Only 8 have been reported so far. There are also some Banner marked toggles reported in this range, but these have chamber date 1939.
I hope this helps.

Guntoter · 11-26-2008, 09:09 PM

Its a bit odd that the pistol has an "in the white" extractor. I believe this should be blued as the rest of the toggle is. Maybe someone polished it to remove the rust spot.

11-14-2008, 01:30 PM	#1
Zamo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 142 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	1936 S/42 = "Banner"??? I don't get it... Here is a link to a 1936 S/42 that I had bid on, but then got out bid. S/42 on a certain Auction site It's a nice Luger, but it has gone out of the range I think it's worth. Despite all that, is there something about the 1936 and earlier Lugers that I'm missing? I remember an old collector friend of mine mentioned something about some Banner lugers being stamped with military stamps, or perhaps it was the other way around, that some were not stamped with Army stamps but were S/42 instead of Banner... In the case of this example, it looks like a typical S/42 with Army stamps...I don't know where the Seller gets "Banner" from at all, as I certainly don't see a Mauser banner on it where the S/42 is. Also, do 1936's command a higher price than others? The seem to, I've been trying to get a nice one for several months now, and they keep drifting up out of what I'm comfortable spending. I realize that the strawing makes it more desirable than the later '37's and later (all blued), is that it? Just curious. __________________ <INSERT WITTY SAYING HERE> My collection: http://home.comcast.net/~gunspotz/guns.htm

11-21-2008, 12:32 PM	#3
Jamka RIP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Antwerp Belgium Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Christian, Your friends may be referring to a small group of commercial Mauser Luger pistols that have S/42 on the toggle instead of a Banner. These are found between #5216v and #5569v; having 1938 on the chamber and C/U proofs. Only 8 have been reported so far. There are also some Banner marked toggles reported in this range, but these have chamber date 1939. I hope this helps. __________________ Joop

11-26-2008, 09:09 PM	#4
Guntoter User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its a bit odd that the pistol has an "in the white" extractor. I believe this should be blued as the rest of the toggle is. Maybe someone polished it to remove the rust spot. __________________ Trust me, I'm with the Government.