Extractor?

Zorba · 01-12-2015, 04:09 PM

Are there any gotchas or other caveats involved with and R & R of a Luger (Mauser) extractor?

mrerick · 01-12-2015, 05:33 PM

Make sure to clean up the little area under the extractor. Gunk (powder residue / oil / grease) tends to accumulate in that area.

There is also a small spring in there, so be careful not to lose it.

I tend to use a big plastic bag around everything when I am disassembling things that might spring out.

Re-installation may feel a bit odd. Just take your time, and observe how things came out during disassembly. Use a punch pin that is slightly smaller than the retention pin during removal. Let the punch retain the assembly while you set aside the retention pin, then slowly remove the punch while you observe things. It should not take alot of force to remove the retention pin or re-install it if everything is lined up.

Inspect the face and back of the extractor while you have it out of the breech block.

If you are replacing the extractor with a new one, you might end up having to fit it.

Marc

Zorba · 01-12-2015, 11:09 PM

Thank you mrerick - the extractor has now been extracted, cleaned, relubed, and reinstalled without incident. There was a fair amount of black crud in the channel, proving Goddess only knows when/if the last time it was cleaned. But after removing and cleaning the extractor/channel on my Nambu proved to be the cure of its fairly extreme stovepiping - I figured it would be best to PM the extractor on the Luger *before* it caused problems.

Now a quick question. The extractor is, of course, a blued part. The side where the "Geladen" text appears is in the white - like it was given a quick sanding/filing/buffing/whatever on that one side only to provide contrast for the text which remains blued.

Normal/usual? Or is it an artifact of fitment? Or both? It *is* the original extractor numbered to the gun.

alanint · 01-13-2015, 06:54 AM

The sides of the extractor are supposed to be in the white, so that "Geladen" can be read. I suspect the part is first blued then the sides buffed out to white., usually leaving the word darker than the surface.

mrerick · 01-13-2015, 10:02 AM

Zorba, good job. Over time, the dirt can cause a number of issues. You don't have to clean things there often, but it should be done occasionally.

rhuff · 01-13-2015, 02:32 PM

Sounds as though you were successful on your extractor R&R. That extractor spring is a strong little fella if correct. It should take quite a bit of pressure to elevate the extractor tip when in the breachblock. When the spring becomes "tired", and they do, you will begin to have extraction problems......leaving the spent brass in the chamber.

Zorba · 01-14-2015, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

Zorba, good job. Over time, the dirt can cause a number of issues. You don't have to clean things there often, but it should be done occasionally.

Yea, after my experience with the Nambu, I figured it was probably a good idea. I figured it was better to ask stupid questions and find out its "no big deal" to disassemble, rather than ASS-U-ME and have it explode with springs and little parts flying every which way!

Geo99 · 01-15-2015, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

The sides of the extractor are supposed to be in the white, so that "Geladen" can be read. I suspect the part is first blued then the sides buffed out to white., usually leaving the word darker than the surface.

I never heard this. I always thought the sides were white from wear. Do you have evidence that they were originally put together that way? (not disagreeing with you, just curious)

- Geo

Ron Wood · 01-15-2015, 02:04 AM

It isn't from wear. If you look at hundreds of Lugers you will see that the sides of the extractors are in the white...far too many to be a result of wear.

01-12-2015, 04:09 PM	#1
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	Extractor? Are there any gotchas or other caveats involved with and R & R of a Luger (Mauser) extractor?

01-12-2015, 05:33 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Make sure to clean up the little area under the extractor. Gunk (powder residue / oil / grease) tends to accumulate in that area. There is also a small spring in there, so be careful not to lose it. I tend to use a big plastic bag around everything when I am disassembling things that might spring out. Re-installation may feel a bit odd. Just take your time, and observe how things came out during disassembly. Use a punch pin that is slightly smaller than the retention pin during removal. Let the punch retain the assembly while you set aside the retention pin, then slowly remove the punch while you observe things. It should not take alot of force to remove the retention pin or re-install it if everything is lined up. Inspect the face and back of the extractor while you have it out of the breech block. If you are replacing the extractor with a new one, you might end up having to fit it. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-13-2015, 10:02 AM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Zorba, good job. Over time, the dirt can cause a number of issues. You don't have to clean things there often, but it should be done occasionally. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-15-2015, 02:04 AM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,097 Times in 1,676 Posts	It isn't from wear. If you look at hundreds of Lugers you will see that the sides of the extractors are in the white...far too many to be a result of wear. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-12-2015, 11:09 PM	#3
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	Thank you mrerick - the extractor has now been extracted, cleaned, relubed, and reinstalled without incident. There was a fair amount of black crud in the channel, proving Goddess only knows when/if the last time it was cleaned. But after removing and cleaning the extractor/channel on my Nambu proved to be the cure of its fairly extreme stovepiping - I figured it would be best to PM the extractor on the Luger before it caused problems. Now a quick question. The extractor is, of course, a blued part. The side where the "Geladen" text appears is in the white - like it was given a quick sanding/filing/buffing/whatever on that one side only to provide contrast for the text which remains blued. Normal/usual? Or is it an artifact of fitment? Or both? It is the original extractor numbered to the gun.

01-13-2015, 06:54 AM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The sides of the extractor are supposed to be in the white, so that "Geladen" can be read. I suspect the part is first blued then the sides buffed out to white., usually leaving the word darker than the surface.

01-13-2015, 02:32 PM	#6
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,272 Thanks: 2,690 Thanked 959 Times in 705 Posts	Sounds as though you were successful on your extractor R&R. That extractor spring is a strong little fella if correct. It should take quite a bit of pressure to elevate the extractor tip when in the breachblock. When the spring becomes "tired", and they do, you will begin to have extraction problems......leaving the spent brass in the chamber.