Thor did it again!

Rjennings · 10-02-2002, 12:18 AM

Thanks to Thor for a beautiful 1916 DWM, fully restored,it is perfect. As soon as Hugh returns the grips, I will post a picture. One question, my G Date and 42 have serial number on rear connecting pin, the 1916 does not, everything else is matching, including the grips, is it a replacement?

Edward Tinker · 10-02-2002, 12:30 AM

Can't wait to see the pictures! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dwight Gruber · 10-02-2002, 01:50 AM

Gortz & Bryan's "German Small Arms Markings" (p. 131) reports a 1932 Reichswehrministry directive requiring the stamping of the last two numbers of the weapon's serial number to be placed on the rear toggle pin--previous to this year they were unmarked.

G&B also report a contemporaneous directive from the Bavarian State Interior Minister requiring that police weapons be marked the same way. Does it follow that one might find earlier Lugers with Bavarian police markings which have serial# stamped toggle pins? Does anyone have first-hand knowledge of this?

--Dwight

Johnny Peppers · 10-02-2002, 09:27 AM

1921 Dated DWM police with sear and inoperative magazine safety has had the rear connecting pin numbered or replaced with a numbered pin.

AGE · 10-02-2002, 11:39 PM

One more time--picked up my restored 1915 DWM from a local dealer (I don't have a FFL) last Friday. It's also beautiful. I shot 50 rounds through it yesterday and it works 100%. The second 5 shot group at 50' was perfectly centered in the black and measured 1 1/2". The first group was also very good, but I pulled one out of the black.

Now what am I going to do--shoot it or just admire it? Guess I'll shoot it.

estevewatson@juno.com · 10-05-2002, 10:50 PM

I was glad to read that AGE was shooting one of the older Lugers. I don't have any that won't shoot (about 9, including an AIMCO and a Stoger .22), but several Luger collectors seem shocked that I would actually want to shoot my older 9mm and .30 Lugers. None of mine are very expensive, but I bought them to shoot. I'm glad that other collectors seem to feel the same way.

Edward Tinker · 10-05-2002, 11:15 PM

Well, if they are very valuable, you are silly to shoot them, but I have the problem of believing, if they are a gun, they are meant to be shot.

I have not shot my "collectable" ones, but I have more shooter guns than collectable. Even shot my Trapdoor 45.70 and it shoots nice! [img]smile.gif[/img]

10-02-2002, 12:18 AM	#1
Rjennings User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thor did it again! Thanks to Thor for a beautiful 1916 DWM, fully restored,it is perfect. As soon as Hugh returns the grips, I will post a picture. One question, my G Date and 42 have serial number on rear connecting pin, the 1916 does not, everything else is matching, including the grips, is it a replacement?

10-02-2002, 12:30 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Can't wait to see the pictures! [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-02-2002, 11:39 PM	#5
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One more time--picked up my restored 1915 DWM from a local dealer (I don't have a FFL) last Friday. It's also beautiful. I shot 50 rounds through it yesterday and it works 100%. The second 5 shot group at 50' was perfectly centered in the black and measured 1 1/2". The first group was also very good, but I pulled one out of the black. Now what am I going to do--shoot it or just admire it? Guess I'll shoot it. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

10-05-2002, 11:15 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Well, if they are very valuable, you are silly to shoot them, but I have the problem of believing, if they are a gun, they are meant to be shot. I have not shot my "collectable" ones, but I have more shooter guns than collectable. Even shot my Trapdoor 45.70 and it shoots nice! [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-02-2002, 01:50 AM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Gortz & Bryan's "German Small Arms Markings" (p. 131) reports a 1932 Reichswehrministry directive requiring the stamping of the last two numbers of the weapon's serial number to be placed on the rear toggle pin--previous to this year they were unmarked. G&B also report a contemporaneous directive from the Bavarian State Interior Minister requiring that police weapons be marked the same way. Does it follow that one might find earlier Lugers with Bavarian police markings which have serial# stamped toggle pins? Does anyone have first-hand knowledge of this? --Dwight

10-02-2002, 09:27 AM	#4
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1921 Dated DWM police with sear and inoperative magazine safety has had the rear connecting pin numbered or replaced with a numbered pin.

10-05-2002, 10:50 PM	#6
estevewatson@juno.com User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was glad to read that AGE was shooting one of the older Lugers. I don't have any that won't shoot (about 9, including an AIMCO and a Stoger .22), but several Luger collectors seem shocked that I would actually want to shoot my older 9mm and .30 Lugers. None of mine are very expensive, but I bought them to shoot. I'm glad that other collectors seem to feel the same way.