Question on a 1902 Luger Carbine Stock

Chuckc · 12-19-2004, 09:09 PM

I have a 1902 Carbine with a stock that looks too new to be original. I can find no numbers on the attachment metal (two screws). Under the butt plate etched into the wood is 50/12 and under that is RWR in caps. Anyone know anything about this? The stock has original looking checkering and matching sling swivel. Very well done. Any help would be appreciated. I am new to this, but enthusiastic. Learning fast, but a long way to go.

Russ · 12-19-2004, 09:55 PM

Chuck
Send me the gun and stock, and I will look at it for you.

We need more info. Photos would be a great help. What Range is the cerial number in? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Russ <img border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" title="" src="graemlins/drink.gif" />

Lugerdoc · 12-20-2004, 09:59 AM

Churck, I don't know who RWR is, but I doubt that he worked for DWM. TH

Chuckc · 12-20-2004, 11:26 AM

I tried to upload some pictures, but I need to learn a little more, and I need to get a better camera. They will be forthcoming. The serial number is 237xx. Tom, Do the DWM original stocks have engraving hidden under the butt plate? I am sure this is not an original stock as the information is engraved with somekind of rotary tool. I assume the DWM folks would have stamped the information. The work is very high quality and worthy of the piece. Just trying to figure out who did it and some kind of idea of when. And since it is not an original, how badly does it affect the value?

Russ · 12-20-2004, 06:20 PM

Chuck
Send me the photos and I will upload them for you.
Russ
rewithem1@aol.com

Russ · 12-20-2004, 09:55 PM

Here are the Photos chuck sent me

Russ

Russ · 12-20-2004, 10:04 PM

one more

Ron Wood · 12-22-2004, 10:40 PM

If it isn't an original stock, it is a darn good replica made by someone who knows stockmaking. I would have to see some real sharp close-ups of the checkering on the buttstock from the side and the bottom to render a better opinion. As for DWM stamping markings on the buttplate, it is made of horn and wouldn't take kindly to stamping.

I have no idea what is beneath my stock's buttplate, and I am not about to dismantle it to find out. It is in nearly new condition also, so I am not surprised that your stock looks "too new to be original".

12-19-2004, 09:09 PM	#1
Chuckc User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question on a 1902 Luger Carbine Stock I have a 1902 Carbine with a stock that looks too new to be original. I can find no numbers on the attachment metal (two screws). Under the butt plate etched into the wood is 50/12 and under that is RWR in caps. Anyone know anything about this? The stock has original looking checkering and matching sling swivel. Very well done. Any help would be appreciated. I am new to this, but enthusiastic. Learning fast, but a long way to go. __________________ Art in metal and wood

12-19-2004, 09:55 PM	#2
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Chuck Send me the gun and stock, and I will look at it for you. We need more info. Photos would be a great help. What Range is the cerial number in? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Russ <img border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" title="" src="graemlins/drink.gif" /> __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

12-20-2004, 09:59 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Churck, I don't know who RWR is, but I doubt that he worked for DWM. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-20-2004, 11:26 AM	#4
Chuckc User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I tried to upload some pictures, but I need to learn a little more, and I need to get a better camera. They will be forthcoming. The serial number is 237xx. Tom, Do the DWM original stocks have engraving hidden under the butt plate? I am sure this is not an original stock as the information is engraved with somekind of rotary tool. I assume the DWM folks would have stamped the information. The work is very high quality and worthy of the piece. Just trying to figure out who did it and some kind of idea of when. And since it is not an original, how badly does it affect the value? __________________ Art in metal and wood

12-20-2004, 06:20 PM	#5
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Chuck Send me the photos and I will upload them for you. Russ rewithem1@aol.com __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

12-20-2004, 09:55 PM	#6
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	carbine photos Here are the Photos chuck sent me Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

12-20-2004, 10:04 PM	#7
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	one more __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

12-22-2004, 10:40 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	If it isn't an original stock, it is a darn good replica made by someone who knows stockmaking. I would have to see some real sharp close-ups of the checkering on the buttstock from the side and the bottom to render a better opinion. As for DWM stamping markings on the buttplate, it is made of horn and wouldn't take kindly to stamping. I have no idea what is beneath my stock's buttplate, and I am not about to dismantle it to find out. It is in nearly new condition also, so I am not surprised that your stock looks "too new to be original". __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction