1911 Erfurt 100R.M.G.2.

Good-Day · 08-11-2021, 07:59 PM

Good Day All,

Help

Am looking at a nice 1911 Erfurt with Regimental Marking
100.R.M.G.2.
Can you guys help with where this was issued?

Thank You

George Anderson · 08-11-2021, 09:28 PM

The 100th Regiment was a Saxon unit garrisoned in Dresden.

wayne8661 · 08-11-2021, 09:41 PM

Any pics?

Good-Day · 08-12-2021, 07:37 AM

Thank You
I take it this was a Machine Gun Unit? for the M.G.

I'll try and get some hopefuly Friday it's at a local shop

cirelaw · 08-12-2021, 11:20 AM

What is one of the rarest regimental marking?

Good-Day · 08-13-2021, 09:47 PM

Sorry for the quick post heres a couple Pics
they have a 1913 ( 1908 Patern ) also

Doubs · 08-14-2021, 01:54 AM

I believe that the scroll R indicates a reserve unit.

The 1913 may have a factory hold open and a stock lug depending upon when it was made in 1913. The earlier ones had neither or possibly a factory hold open and no stock lug. The hold open was mandated in a May, 1913, directive while the stock lug was mandated in an August, 1913 directive. Thus I think it possible for a 1913 to have the factory hold open but no stock lug... but that is speculation on my part. I would think that if any were produced that way, they would be very few in number.

Basically I'm saying that the 1913 Lugers could possibly be found in the following configurations:

1. No factory hold open or stock lug
2. Factory hold open but no stock lug
3. Factory hold open and stock lug
4. Early 1913 Luger without factory hold open modified by the Erfurt Rifle Arsenal to have a hold open and new front sight

The only one I'm not certain of is number 2

JTD · 08-14-2021, 10:42 AM

Nice pistol, thanks for the photo shoot. John.

Good-Day · 08-14-2021, 10:53 AM

The 1913 does not hold open and has no stock lug
I did not break it down to see if it just has a broken spring

The 1911 does hold open

spangy · 08-14-2021, 12:06 PM

Looks to be a very nice Erfurt Good-Day

I for one would love to see more pictures of it if you buy it.

Doubs · 08-14-2021, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Good-Day

The 1913 does not hold open and has no stock lug
I did not break it down to see if it just has a broken spring

The 1911 does hold open

The 1911 was manufactured without a hold open. Many early Lugers made that way were later modified at the Royal Erfurt Rifle Arsenal (factory) to have a hold open. If you look on the right side just behind and above the trigger, you'll see a pin sticking through with a small crown over a letter stamped under it. That shows that the hold open was added after original manufacture. At the same time, the front sight was replaced to bring zero to 50 meters. Early Lugers were zeroed between 80 & 110 meters.

If the 1913 doesn't have a hold open, it was made early that year. Some units didn't return their Lugers to have the hold open added. The picture below shows a hold open and if you pull the action open on the 1913, you will be able to see if it has one or not.

HerrKaiser · 08-14-2021, 02:52 PM

The two German states whose early Lugers were not always retrofitted were the Bavarians and the Württemberg(ische) ones if I remember correctly. I believe Baden was also grouped with Württemberg in the army units as well but I think they mostly had the retrofits done.

Good-Day · 08-14-2021, 06:32 PM

Cool Info on the Hold Open
Thank You

Added a few extra pics I had taken
Looking at the 1913 looks like it did not have the Hold Open or Mod

Now heres the hard part for me it's probably in my best interest to pass on these right now

But it would not be fair, as they are both kind of rare to not pass this on in case one of you wants to give them a good home

Almost forgot they also have a very nice DWM Comercial in .30 if someone is looking for a shooter

Sound Load in Everett Wa 425-252-2222
They are a really good people and they do ship

As always thank you all for your help and comments
and we shall see what comes up next time

lugerholsterrepair · 08-14-2021, 07:41 PM

What are they asking for these?

Good-Day · 08-14-2021, 09:26 PM

Apologies should have included these Pics

The DWM Commercial was $1200

Proofed · 08-15-2021, 11:59 AM

on a 1912 Erfurt
Along with the 100m sight changed to 50m front sight

klaus 3338 · 08-18-2021, 06:36 AM

just saw this thread and remembered this holster...

JTD · 08-18-2021, 09:53 PM

Really nice, thanks for the photos Klaus! I have a pickelhaub cover for this unit. Missed out on the pistol.

08-11-2021, 07:59 PM	#1
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	1911 Erfurt 100R.M.G.2. Good Day All, Help Am looking at a nice 1911 Erfurt with Regimental Marking 100.R.M.G.2. Can you guys help with where this was issued? Thank You

08-13-2021, 09:47 PM	#6
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	1911 and 1913 Erfuts Sorry for the quick post heres a couple Pics they have a 1913 ( 1908 Patern ) also Attached Thumbnails

08-14-2021, 12:06 PM	#10
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	Looks to be a very nice Erfurt Good-Day I for one would love to see more pictures of it if you buy it. __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

08-14-2021, 02:52 PM	#12
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 845 Thanks: 782 Thanked 860 Times in 410 Posts	The two German states whose early Lugers were not always retrofitted were the Bavarians and the Württemberg(ische) ones if I remember correctly. I believe Baden was also grouped with Württemberg in the army units as well but I think they mostly had the retrofits done. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

08-14-2021, 06:32 PM	#13
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	1911 & 1913 Lugers Cool Info on the Hold Open Thank You Added a few extra pics I had taken Looking at the 1913 looks like it did not have the Hold Open or Mod Now heres the hard part for me it's probably in my best interest to pass on these right now But it would not be fair, as they are both kind of rare to not pass this on in case one of you wants to give them a good home Almost forgot they also have a very nice DWM Comercial in .30 if someone is looking for a shooter Sound Load in Everett Wa 425-252-2222 They are a really good people and they do ship As always thank you all for your help and comments and we shall see what comes up next time Attached Thumbnails

08-11-2021, 09:28 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	The 100th Regiment was a Saxon unit garrisoned in Dresden.

08-11-2021, 09:41 PM	#3
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Any pics?

08-12-2021, 07:37 AM	#4
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	Thank You I take it this was a Machine Gun Unit? for the M.G. I'll try and get some hopefuly Friday it's at a local shop

08-12-2021, 11:20 AM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	What is one of the rarest regimental marking?

08-14-2021, 01:54 AM	#7
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,696 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,679 Times in 552 Posts	I believe that the scroll R indicates a reserve unit. The 1913 may have a factory hold open and a stock lug depending upon when it was made in 1913. The earlier ones had neither or possibly a factory hold open and no stock lug. The hold open was mandated in a May, 1913, directive while the stock lug was mandated in an August, 1913 directive. Thus I think it possible for a 1913 to have the factory hold open but no stock lug... but that is speculation on my part. I would think that if any were produced that way, they would be very few in number. Basically I'm saying that the 1913 Lugers could possibly be found in the following configurations: 1. No factory hold open or stock lug 2. Factory hold open but no stock lug 3. Factory hold open and stock lug 4. Early 1913 Luger without factory hold open modified by the Erfurt Rifle Arsenal to have a hold open and new front sight The only one I'm not certain of is number 2

08-14-2021, 10:42 AM	#8
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	Nice pistol, thanks for the photo shoot. John.

08-14-2021, 10:53 AM	#9
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	The 1913 does not hold open and has no stock lug I did not break it down to see if it just has a broken spring The 1911 does hold open

08-14-2021, 07:41 PM	#14
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08-14-2021, 09:26 PM	#15
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	1911 & 1913 Lugers Apologies should have included these Pics The DWM Commercial was $1200 Attached Thumbnails

08-15-2021, 11:59 AM	#16
Proofed User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Pa. Posts: 157 Thanks: 535 Thanked 338 Times in 90 Posts	1913 applied hold open and acceptance on a 1912 Erfurt Along with the 100m sight changed to 50m front sight Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Proofed; 08-15-2021 at 12:11 PM. Reason: more info

08-18-2021, 06:36 AM	#17
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	just saw this thread and remembered this holster... Attached Thumbnails

08-18-2021, 09:53 PM	#18
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	Really nice, thanks for the photos Klaus! I have a pickelhaub cover for this unit. Missed out on the pistol.