Swiss rework

Tom Whiteman · 03-24-2005, 09:28 AM

I have a Swiss rework that was captured by a medic in WWII. I was told it is a VONO rework, but the markings are a little different than what is covered in the book Lugers at Random. It is a DWM gun with the Swiss starburst. But under the barrell is 7.65, an Eagle/N proof, and then an Eagle over J, it then says "M.V.Oller Z.M." or "M.VOLLER Z.M."

Can anyone tell me about this gun? I assume the writing under the barrel explains where it was re-worked...?

I'm hoping you'll tell me this is a rare and desirable variation

drbuster · 03-24-2005, 09:49 PM

VONO stands for "Von Nordheim". Your piece is a re-work from another source. There were several. The VONO variation should have a script "Vono" over the chamber. A "true" VONO rework in excellent condition, according to the poorly accurate book by Aarron, is pegged at $3K.

Dwight Gruber · 03-24-2005, 11:12 PM

John Walter, in "The Luger Book" (1986) lists M.V. Oller as a gunsmith in Zella-Mehlis, Thuringia. He notes the report of a replacement 9mm P-08 barrel with this mark, and the mark also on some single-shot dropping-block rifle actions. Nothing more is known to Walter.

--Dwight

Tom Whiteman · 03-25-2005, 12:14 AM

Thanks so much for the helpful information

Fredo · 03-28-2005, 04:27 PM

hi, I'm a bit surprised that a Swiss Luger has been captured during wwII because Switzerland was neutral during the war and none of our soldier did participate to any battle. Please let me know if I'm wrong
Bye

03-24-2005, 09:28 AM	#1
Tom Whiteman User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 28 Times in 3 Posts	Swiss rework I have a Swiss rework that was captured by a medic in WWII. I was told it is a VONO rework, but the markings are a little different than what is covered in the book Lugers at Random. It is a DWM gun with the Swiss starburst. But under the barrell is 7.65, an Eagle/N proof, and then an Eagle over J, it then says "M.V.Oller Z.M." or "M.VOLLER Z.M." Can anyone tell me about this gun? I assume the writing under the barrel explains where it was re-worked...? I'm hoping you'll tell me this is a rare and desirable variation

03-24-2005, 09:49 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	VONO stands for "Von Nordheim". Your piece is a re-work from another source. There were several. The VONO variation should have a script "Vono" over the chamber. A "true" VONO rework in excellent condition, according to the poorly accurate book by Aarron, is pegged at $3K.

03-24-2005, 11:12 PM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	John Walter, in "The Luger Book" (1986) lists M.V. Oller as a gunsmith in Zella-Mehlis, Thuringia. He notes the report of a replacement 9mm P-08 barrel with this mark, and the mark also on some single-shot dropping-block rifle actions. Nothing more is known to Walter. --Dwight

03-25-2005, 12:14 AM	#4
Tom Whiteman User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 28 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks so much for the helpful information

03-28-2005, 04:27 PM	#5
Fredo User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lausanne/Switzerland Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hi, I'm a bit surprised that a Swiss Luger has been captured during wwII because Switzerland was neutral during the war and none of our soldier did participate to any battle. Please let me know if I'm wrong Bye