Lugers, you want Lugers...

Jim Royston · 01-24-2005, 08:31 PM

http://www.auktionsverket.se/dbkatal..._oversikt.asp?
Have fun,check out the vapen auction 3/05 at this site. On the SigForum, it's reported that this estate contains 3000 handguns up for auction.

Pete Ebbink · 01-24-2005, 10:00 PM

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the great link...!!!

Here is an odd duo-tone Navy luger :

Russ · 01-24-2005, 10:19 PM

Pete
Short frame and shorter receaver????????

Russ

Dwight Gruber · 01-24-2005, 11:53 PM

The catalog says its a Swiss parts gun, replaced barrel and toggle.

--Dwight

AGE · 01-25-2005, 12:12 AM

Anybody know what kind of rear sight is on the 2 tone gun? Looks attractive to me.

John Sabato · 01-25-2005, 10:11 AM

That is a Navy Luger rear toggle and sight Al...

Pete Ebbink · 01-25-2005, 03:06 PM

Hey Russ,

It could be a M1914 Navy...(either 1916 or 1917 dated...).

Pete...

Vlim · 01-26-2005, 12:46 PM

Nice link, very nice.....I'm getting ideas

Pete Ebbink · 02-26-2005, 10:46 PM

Described as :

" 4612 - PISTOL, (A82), tysk, halvautomat, fab Loewe Berlin, mod Borchardt, kaliber 7,7 mm Borchardt, tillvnr 582, piplÃ?Â¤ngd 19 cm, fast sikte, kolvsidor av trÃ?Â¤, original lÃ?Â¶skolvmed samma nummer, mycket gott skick

Utrop: SEK 50 000-60 000 (EUR 5 600-6 700) "

Ron Wood · 02-26-2005, 11:43 PM

Really pretty Loewe Borchardt with matching magazine. However, I have a little concern about the stock. It says it is "good" but no mention of matching and it is missing the "staple". Still, not a bad buy for under $9K.

Big Norm · 02-28-2005, 04:46 AM

Ron,
you say that the stock is missing the "staple". What is the "staple" that you are talking about?
Big Norm

Ron Wood · 02-28-2005, 10:30 AM

Norm,
It is the attachment loop for the sholder strap. I was just trying to take a shortcut rather than writing it out...getting lazy I guess.

Big Norm · 02-28-2005, 08:32 PM

Ron,
this is a good chance to look at the front sight of a Loewes Borchardt. I THINK that you said that it differed from a DWM Borchardt in that it is adjustible. I can see a pin there that does not exist on my DWM. I keep thinking about the adjustible front sight on an artillery Luger. This sight obviously differs. I guess that I will have to keep watching gun shows for a Loewe Borchardt to see exactly how the front sight functions.
Big Norm

Ron Wood · 02-28-2005, 09:04 PM

Norm,
It is the REAR sight that is adjustable on a Loewe Borchardt. The front sight is pinned but not moveable. If your DWM Borchardt does not have a pinned front sight, that is one more difference between the two versions.

Big Norm · 03-01-2005, 10:32 PM

Ron,
I had adjustible front sight on the brain from messing with the front sight on one of my artilleries. Then I saw the pin on the front sight of this Loewes Borchardt and made a mental connect. My DWM Borchardt does NOT have a pin in the front sight. The pictures of the above Loewes do not show the adjustible rear sight very well. So I guess that I will still have to go to a gun show to see the rear sight real well.
Big Norm

01-24-2005, 08:31 PM	#1
Jim Royston New User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dallas,Texas Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lugers, you want Lugers... http://www.auktionsverket.se/dbkatal..._oversikt.asp? Have fun,check out the vapen auction 3/05 at this site. On the SigForum, it's reported that this estate contains 3000 handguns up for auction.

01-24-2005, 10:19 PM	#3
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	%%%%% Pete Short frame and shorter receaver???????? Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

01-25-2005, 12:12 AM	#5
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anybody know what kind of rear sight is on the 2 tone gun? Looks attractive to me. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

01-25-2005, 10:11 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	That is a Navy Luger rear toggle and sight Al... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-26-2005, 10:46 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Borchardt... Described as : " 4612 - PISTOL, (A82), tysk, halvautomat, fab Loewe Berlin, mod Borchardt, kaliber 7,7 mm Borchardt, tillvnr 582, piplÃ?Â¤ngd 19 cm, fast sikte, kolvsidor av trÃ?Â¤, original lÃ?Â¶skolvmed samma nummer, mycket gott skick Utrop: SEK 50 000-60 000 (EUR 5 600-6 700) "

01-24-2005, 10:00 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Jim, Thanks for the great link...!!! Here is an odd duo-tone Navy luger :

01-24-2005, 11:53 PM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	The catalog says its a Swiss parts gun, replaced barrel and toggle. --Dwight

01-25-2005, 03:06 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hey Russ, It could be a M1914 Navy...(either 1916 or 1917 dated...). Pete...

01-26-2005, 12:46 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Nice link, very nice.....I'm getting ideas

02-26-2005, 11:43 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Really pretty Loewe Borchardt with matching magazine. However, I have a little concern about the stock. It says it is "good" but no mention of matching and it is missing the "staple". Still, not a bad buy for under $9K. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-28-2005, 04:46 AM	#11
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Ron, you say that the stock is missing the "staple". What is the "staple" that you are talking about? Big Norm

02-28-2005, 10:30 AM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Norm, It is the attachment loop for the sholder strap. I was just trying to take a shortcut rather than writing it out...getting lazy I guess. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-28-2005, 08:32 PM	#13
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Ron, this is a good chance to look at the front sight of a Loewes Borchardt. I THINK that you said that it differed from a DWM Borchardt in that it is adjustible. I can see a pin there that does not exist on my DWM. I keep thinking about the adjustible front sight on an artillery Luger. This sight obviously differs. I guess that I will have to keep watching gun shows for a Loewe Borchardt to see exactly how the front sight functions. Big Norm

02-28-2005, 09:04 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Norm, It is the REAR sight that is adjustable on a Loewe Borchardt. The front sight is pinned but not moveable. If your DWM Borchardt does not have a pinned front sight, that is one more difference between the two versions. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-01-2005, 10:32 PM	#15
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Ron, I had adjustible front sight on the brain from messing with the front sight on one of my artilleries. Then I saw the pin on the front sight of this Loewes Borchardt and made a mental connect. My DWM Borchardt does NOT have a pin in the front sight. The pictures of the above Loewes do not show the adjustible rear sight very well. So I guess that I will still have to go to a gun show to see the rear sight real well. Big Norm