new Test Luger

Edward Tinker · 10-08-2011, 01:01 PM

okay, went to a small gunshow today, and there was one guy who had a bunch of luger holsters (too high for me to make any money, but most worth the money he was asking), then another gentleman had a Test Luger.

I walked over to the book seller, looked up the serial number in Central Powers and pow..... It was a Bannerman number. Price was a bit higher than I wanted, but we negotiated down. I have had 2 or 3 Test Lugers, and have one in the 6100-7100 range, but not a listed Bannerman, so I was very excited. Before I left for Saudi and Iraq I had bought a test luger from a friend, but I was broke and had to sell it, but it went to a good home

Now I have to sell something to have my spending money for Allentown and Tulsa

Ok, here is my take on this luger.

Barrel serial is very light, as is the sideplate (appears to be a 28), but other items like the take down lever number, trigger, breechblock, etc are all nicely stamped and the eagle is very nice.

Looks like the barrel may be a 28?

The safety lever area is actually lighter in color than it shows in the picture, I do not believe this is a old reblue, perhaps the barrel was cleaned up?

Ed

Ron Wood · 10-08-2011, 01:17 PM

Congratulations Ed! Your serial number is 6923 not 6928. Looks all matched and in nice shape. It is a new number for the data base as well...thank you!

Edward Tinker · 10-08-2011, 01:30 PM

Well, a couple of parts (not under a loop) I thought might be an '8', but if a 3, than it is all matching

It came out of a old collection here in PA, the guy I know, said the owner used to own 3 or 4 Tests and that he just went into a home, but this was the last of the lugers.

Ed

Ron Wood · 10-08-2011, 02:16 PM

I am quite familar with the early 3-8 confusion. I had to argue with a guy at a gun show for over an hour that the 8 on the gun he had just purchased was actually a 3. Only after borrowing a 10X loupe and showing him another example of an early 3 did I convince him. Then we needed to go back to a very well known dealer that had sold him the gun and have him update his records to change the 8 to a 3. Trust me, all of the digits on your gun are a 3. You have an all matching gun.

Edward Tinker · 10-08-2011, 04:05 PM

Well Ron, you made my day!

I was willing to accept it as is, now I am thrilled.

Ed

wlyon · 10-08-2011, 05:47 PM

Ed
Nice find!!!!!! Bill

sheepherder · 10-08-2011, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I walked over to the book seller, looked up the serial number in Central Powers and...

A book seller at a small gun show had a copy of Central Powers for sale???

I know you have a copy at home, but I hope you bought the book to resell here...

(The very idea...Looking up info in a book-for-sale and not buying it...)

Ice · 10-08-2011, 06:04 PM

Wow! What great luck. It couldn't have a nicer home. Congrats

Charlie

cirelaw · 10-08-2011, 06:29 PM

Nice Scouting! How many 'for real' are we up to??

Edward Tinker · 10-08-2011, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

A book seller at a small gun show had a copy of Central Powers for sale???

I know you have a copy at home, but I hope you bought the book to resell here...

(The very idea...Looking up info in a book-for-sale and not buying it...)

I had just bought 'Backbone of the Wehrmacht' from him, plus signed his copy of Simson Lugers, 3 copies of Vet I and 5 or 6 of Vet 2

so he was okay with me doing so.

I do have Jan's book, in fact, I have about 12-14 of them, you can order from me or order from him (I bought them to sell at gun shows).

It was a 400 table show and not the best, but I liked it

Next weekend is the Allentown show, it is a great one and will be able to see Geo Anderson, Tom Whiteman and several other members

thank you Bill, Charlie and Eric

Ed

cirelaw · 10-08-2011, 07:36 PM

You folks definitly deserve it. I have gone to a gunshow for over 2 years or anywhere except for hospitals or rehabs. I can finally walk unassisted!God has definatly cut me a small break. I wish I could be there, to meet you all and share some luger stories. I'm only 55 and have been through the wringer. By this time next year I will join You all. I promise!

Hugo Borchardt · 10-09-2011, 09:02 AM

Congratulations on a nice find and preserving another important piece! I have it's close cousin 6920! I owned a 1900 for over a year thinking the 3 was an 8!

mcg · 10-09-2011, 10:34 AM

Great find and couldn't have happened to a better guy.
Mark

cirelaw · 10-09-2011, 04:18 PM

I'm relegated to this alternate for now! Not a bad alternative!

Edward Tinker · 10-09-2011, 04:23 PM

thanks Mark

I have owned two fat barrels, but sold both years ago, wished I had kept the one now!

Ed

cirelaw · 10-09-2011, 04:43 PM

Tom has one back in inventory for $11,950 just for info sake!! Heres a trivia sake. How many luger models bore our eagle?? I'm guessing 6!!!

Edward Tinker · 10-09-2011, 05:41 PM

Let me try

1900 military test
1900 commercial to the USA
1902 fat barrel commercial to the USA
1906 commercial to the USA
1908 type made by DWM Alphabet comm/1920 comm. 'Safe-Loaded' American Eagle
1908 type made by Mauser Stoeger

I have seen an artillery with a eagle, but would not call it a common model

Cartridge counters have an american eagle?

Mauser made 1970's -- several models

cirelaw · 10-09-2011, 07:13 PM

Ed, wasn't there a carbine wih an eagle??

MFC · 10-09-2011, 07:47 PM

Also... Alphabet comm/1920 comm. 'Safe-Loaded' American Eagle.

Edward Tinker · 10-09-2011, 07:56 PM

good add Mike

10-08-2011, 01:01 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	new Test Luger okay, went to a small gunshow today, and there was one guy who had a bunch of luger holsters (too high for me to make any money, but most worth the money he was asking), then another gentleman had a Test Luger. I walked over to the book seller, looked up the serial number in Central Powers and pow..... It was a Bannerman number. Price was a bit higher than I wanted, but we negotiated down. I have had 2 or 3 Test Lugers, and have one in the 6100-7100 range, but not a listed Bannerman, so I was very excited. Before I left for Saudi and Iraq I had bought a test luger from a friend, but I was broke and had to sell it, but it went to a good home Now I have to sell something to have my spending money for Allentown and Tulsa Ok, here is my take on this luger. Barrel serial is very light, as is the sideplate (appears to be a 28), but other items like the take down lever number, trigger, breechblock, etc are all nicely stamped and the eagle is very nice. Looks like the barrel may be a 28? The safety lever area is actually lighter in color than it shows in the picture, I do not believe this is a old reblue, perhaps the barrel was cleaned up? Ed Attached Thumbnails __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-08-2011, 01:17 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Congratulations Ed! Your serial number is 6923 not 6928. Looks all matched and in nice shape. It is a new number for the data base as well...thank you! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-08-2011, 02:16 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	I am quite familar with the early 3-8 confusion. I had to argue with a guy at a gun show for over an hour that the 8 on the gun he had just purchased was actually a 3. Only after borrowing a 10X loupe and showing him another example of an early 3 did I convince him. Then we needed to go back to a very well known dealer that had sold him the gun and have him update his records to change the 8 to a 3. Trust me, all of the digits on your gun are a 3. You have an all matching gun. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-08-2011, 04:05 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Well Ron, you made my day! I was willing to accept it as is, now I am thrilled. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-08-2011, 05:47 PM	#6
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	Ed Nice find!!!!!! Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-08-2011, 01:30 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Well, a couple of parts (not under a loop) I thought might be an '8', but if a 3, than it is all matching It came out of a old collection here in PA, the guy I know, said the owner used to own 3 or 4 Tests and that he just went into a home, but this was the last of the lugers. Ed

10-08-2011, 06:04 PM	#8
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Wow! What great luck. It couldn't have a nicer home. Congrats Charlie

10-08-2011, 06:29 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Nice Scouting! How many 'for real' are we up to?? Attached Images

10-08-2011, 07:36 PM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I so wish I could be there! You folks definitly deserve it. I have gone to a gunshow for over 2 years or anywhere except for hospitals or rehabs. I can finally walk unassisted!God has definatly cut me a small break. I wish I could be there, to meet you all and share some luger stories. I'm only 55 and have been through the wringer. By this time next year I will join You all. I promise!

10-09-2011, 09:02 AM	#12
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 370 Thanks: 338 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts	Congratulations on a nice find and preserving another important piece! I have it's close cousin 6920! I owned a 1900 for over a year thinking the 3 was an 8! __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

10-09-2011, 10:34 AM	#13
mcg Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 89 Thanks: 252 Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts	Great find and couldn't have happened to a better guy. Mark

10-09-2011, 04:18 PM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I come To The Realization That I May Never Own A Cartrige Counter I'm relegated to this alternate for now! Not a bad alternative! Attached Thumbnails

10-09-2011, 04:23 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	thanks Mark I have owned two fat barrels, but sold both years ago, wished I had kept the one now! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-09-2011, 04:43 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Tom has one back in inventory for $11,950 just for info sake!! Heres a trivia sake. How many luger models bore our eagle?? I'm guessing 6!!!

10-09-2011, 05:41 PM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Let me try 1900 military test 1900 commercial to the USA 1902 fat barrel commercial to the USA 1906 commercial to the USA 1908 type made by DWM Alphabet comm/1920 comm. 'Safe-Loaded' American Eagle 1908 type made by Mauser Stoeger I have seen an artillery with a eagle, but would not call it a common model Cartridge counters have an american eagle? Mauser made 1970's -- several models

10-09-2011, 07:13 PM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Ed, wasn't there a carbine wih an eagle??

10-09-2011, 07:47 PM	#19
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Also... Alphabet comm/1920 comm. 'Safe-Loaded' American Eagle. __________________ Mike C.

10-09-2011, 07:56 PM	#20
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	good add Mike