Stainless Steel Luger...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 02-03-2003, 02:03 PM

Here is my post Stoeger Aimco Luger. It has all of the
changes made by Stoeger after Mitchell, just no Stoeger
name...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 02-03-2003, 03:36 PM

The other side...

Steve Richards · 02-03-2003, 03:40 PM

Wonderful pictures! Does it have a year of manufacture stamped on the chamber? We are collecting enough pictures of these to get an idea of what changes were made when. They now have a grip safety and no stock lug bulge. At least that is how my year 2000 is made.

Johnny C. Kitchens · 02-03-2003, 04:16 PM

No, just the American Eagle. One other difference over the Stoegers
I've seen. It doesn't have the red and green dots in the safety area.
It does say "SAFE"...

Steve Richards · 02-03-2003, 07:41 PM

I have a request for information from all of us owners of stainless steel versions. I would like to compile the following:

American Eagle chamber stamp (Yes or No)

Year of manufacture (if not known then purchase year).

Is the year stamped on the chamber? (Yes or NO)

If not, does any accompanying paperwork indicate a year?

Serial number and placement (right or left side or front of frame)

Mitchell, Stoeger or no markings on left side

Safety markings (SAFE, red dot, plain dot)

Grip safety (Yes or NO)

Stock lug (Actual lug, bulge or plain)

Right side marked AIMCO or SPM

Magazine style (Original with vertical rib or new flat sides)

The idea is to try to create a timeline of what was done when. Untill AIMCO comes forth with information like this, it is up to us to compile it ouselves. I just think it would be interesting to make this information available to our members.

Even if you do not own one, if you see one you could still gather this information and pass it along. <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" />

Johnny C. Kitchens · 02-03-2003, 08:26 PM

I guess I could start this here...

>>American Eagle chamber stamp (Yes or No)

Yes

>>Year of manufacture (if not known then purchase year).

No

I purchased it January 2003, dealer said he had sold this one
as part of a group of four to a man a couple of years ago. So
it could be anywhere from 2000 to nearly 2002. The man passed
away, and his wife asked the dealer if he would like to get
them back, which he did, November 2002...

>>Is the year stamped on the chamber? (Yes or NO)

No

>>If not, does any accompanying paperwork indicate a year?

No

>>Serial number placement (right or left side or front of frame)

Right

>>Mitchell, Stoeger or no markings on left side

No Marking

>>Safety markings (SAFE, red dot, plain dot)

Safe

>>Grip safety (Yes or NO)

No

>>Stock lug (Actual lug, bulge or plain)

Bulge

>>Right side marked AIMCO or SPM

AIMCO

I hope we can get some idea of variatons and possible numbers
of them someday. How about adding a serial number question. Like
number of digits, and does it have a letter. I noticed that the
article on the Stainless here in the site, says his starts with
a letter. Mine does not and consist of four digits...

Steve Richards · 02-04-2003, 02:54 PM

Johnny,

Two more questions, What are the first two digits of the serial number and does it have an original style magazine or one of the new style with the flat sides?

Steve

Johnny C. Kitchens · 02-04-2003, 04:01 PM

My number is 88xx and the magazine are the flat sided type...

Stu · 02-05-2003, 12:48 PM

Just for the record;

American Eagle chamber stamp (Yes)

Year of manufacture (1993).

Is the year stamped on the chamber? (Yes)

Serial number and placement (3846, left side)

Mitchell Arms american Eagle on left side

Safety markings (red dot)

Grip safety (NO)

Stock lug (Actual lug, not slotted)

Right side marked AIMCO

Magazine style (Original with vertical rib)

Look forward to seeing the results !

Steve Richards · 02-05-2003, 02:54 PM

This is going great! If you wish, you can put XX for the last two digits of the serial number. I will put 99 on the spreadsheet that I create. When I get a few more responses I will post it on the forum. This can be an ongoing project. My gun is numbered in the 66 thousand range and from year 2000. If they are numbered consecutively, there are a lot of these guns out there! We are already in a range from 3800 to over 66000.

One of the times that I talked to Mr. Romo, he said something about having made several tens of thousands of whatever part we were referring to, so that matches with the number range shown on just three guns. I just wish some of the numbers on guns (both S/N and year) in the stainless steel file in the member gallery were readable. I could then use the photos we already have to add several more guns.

Anyway, thanks for the two responses so far and I hope to see more. If you see any guns at shows, jot the info down and pass it along. You do not need to own the gun to get most of this. If the year of manufacture cannot be determined, the serial number will place the gun in order and be useful.

Johnny C. Kitchens · 02-06-2003, 03:18 PM

I've noticed that there are two different designs of extractors, as well...

02-03-2003, 02:03 PM	#1
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Stainless Steel Luger... Here is my post Stoeger Aimco Luger. It has all of the changes made by Stoeger after Mitchell, just no Stoeger name... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

02-03-2003, 03:36 PM	#2
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	The other side... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

02-03-2003, 04:16 PM	#4
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	No, just the American Eagle. One other difference over the Stoegers I've seen. It doesn't have the red and green dots in the safety area. It does say "SAFE"... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

02-03-2003, 08:26 PM	#6
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	I guess I could start this here... >>American Eagle chamber stamp (Yes or No) Yes >>Year of manufacture (if not known then purchase year). No I purchased it January 2003, dealer said he had sold this one as part of a group of four to a man a couple of years ago. So it could be anywhere from 2000 to nearly 2002. The man passed away, and his wife asked the dealer if he would like to get them back, which he did, November 2002... >>Is the year stamped on the chamber? (Yes or NO) No >>If not, does any accompanying paperwork indicate a year? No >>Serial number placement (right or left side or front of frame) Right >>Mitchell, Stoeger or no markings on left side No Marking >>Safety markings (SAFE, red dot, plain dot) Safe >>Grip safety (Yes or NO) No >>Stock lug (Actual lug, bulge or plain) Bulge >>Right side marked AIMCO or SPM AIMCO I hope we can get some idea of variatons and possible numbers of them someday. How about adding a serial number question. Like number of digits, and does it have a letter. I noticed that the article on the Stainless here in the site, says his starts with a letter. Mine does not and consist of four digits... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

02-04-2003, 04:01 PM	#8
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	My number is 88xx and the magazine are the flat sided type... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

02-03-2003, 03:40 PM	#3
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wonderful pictures! Does it have a year of manufacture stamped on the chamber? We are collecting enough pictures of these to get an idea of what changes were made when. They now have a grip safety and no stock lug bulge. At least that is how my year 2000 is made.

02-03-2003, 07:41 PM	#5
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a request for information from all of us owners of stainless steel versions. I would like to compile the following: American Eagle chamber stamp (Yes or No) Year of manufacture (if not known then purchase year). Is the year stamped on the chamber? (Yes or NO) If not, does any accompanying paperwork indicate a year? Serial number and placement (right or left side or front of frame) Mitchell, Stoeger or no markings on left side Safety markings (SAFE, red dot, plain dot) Grip safety (Yes or NO) Stock lug (Actual lug, bulge or plain) Right side marked AIMCO or SPM Magazine style (Original with vertical rib or new flat sides) The idea is to try to create a timeline of what was done when. Untill AIMCO comes forth with information like this, it is up to us to compile it ouselves. I just think it would be interesting to make this information available to our members. Even if you do not own one, if you see one you could still gather this information and pass it along. <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" />

02-04-2003, 02:54 PM	#7
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Johnny, Two more questions, What are the first two digits of the serial number and does it have an original style magazine or one of the new style with the flat sides? Steve

02-05-2003, 12:48 PM	#9
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 451 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Just for the record; American Eagle chamber stamp (Yes) Year of manufacture (1993). Is the year stamped on the chamber? (Yes) Serial number and placement (3846, left side) Mitchell Arms american Eagle on left side Safety markings (red dot) Grip safety (NO) Stock lug (Actual lug, not slotted) Right side marked AIMCO Magazine style (Original with vertical rib) Look forward to seeing the results !

02-05-2003, 02:54 PM	#10
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is going great! If you wish, you can put XX for the last two digits of the serial number. I will put 99 on the spreadsheet that I create. When I get a few more responses I will post it on the forum. This can be an ongoing project. My gun is numbered in the 66 thousand range and from year 2000. If they are numbered consecutively, there are a lot of these guns out there! We are already in a range from 3800 to over 66000. One of the times that I talked to Mr. Romo, he said something about having made several tens of thousands of whatever part we were referring to, so that matches with the number range shown on just three guns. I just wish some of the numbers on guns (both S/N and year) in the stainless steel file in the member gallery were readable. I could then use the photos we already have to add several more guns. Anyway, thanks for the two responses so far and I hope to see more. If you see any guns at shows, jot the info down and pass it along. You do not need to own the gun to get most of this. If the year of manufacture cannot be determined, the serial number will place the gun in order and be useful.

02-06-2003, 03:18 PM	#11
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	I've noticed that there are two different designs of extractors, as well... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens