Help Identifying Luger.

Nicholas · 03-15-2009, 09:51 PM

Hello fellas,

I recently acquired a Luger from an estate auction, Im having trouble identifying it. Any help would be very much appreciated.

The wood grips have plates that space the wood away from the grip frame. Was there a retrofit to add these smooth grips to commercial Lugers? They also have three notches on the top right hand side of the wood.
Another person from the auction asked me If I would trade grips with him, he stated the checkered grips he bought from the auctions are the originals. The grips will not mount onto the frame with the metal spacers installed. Fair trade?

Here's some detailed pictures:
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow

This picture shows the grip spacers
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/u...23guns0035.jpg
Thanks a bunch.

Ron Wood · 03-15-2009, 10:20 PM

No, it is by no means a fair trade. The grips on your gun are early 1900's aftermarket items that are used in conjunction with a telescoping shoulder stock/holster that clips into the slots in the metal backing plates. The grips are worth considerably more than the checkered grips you are being offered.

Nicholas · 03-16-2009, 09:51 PM

Well! he did offer fifty bucks to sweeten the deal.

Thank you very much Mr. Wood.

You think I got a good deal, I paid $700?

Is the stock like this one?
http://www.rwnaf.org/collections/ite...%201900&id=519

Or this one:
http://www.lugerlp08.com/lp08_telescopic_stock.htm

Edward Tinker · 03-16-2009, 10:06 PM

Nicholas, welcome.

The first link, the 2nd is VERY rare and worth a lot of money. The first one is the Ideal stock and worth about $900-$1800.

The price you paid was very good with some extra magazines, although the holster is a reproduction.

I sent you a PM as an Admin... it is best to post pictures to the forum, so members don't have to leave the site.

Ed

Ron Wood · 03-16-2009, 10:26 PM

Fifty bucks isn't sweet enough. If he gets close to $250 you could start to consider the offer.

crc · 03-17-2009, 07:34 AM

There is a stock for sale on ebay without the grips. Look under luger holsters.

Regards,

Randy

sheepherder · 03-18-2009, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crc

There is a stock for sale on ebay without the grips.

Cool! I'd display the stock + luger/grips!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Luger-holster-sh...em290303177097

Nicholas · 03-18-2009, 05:50 PM

That is very cool. Wonder If I can make my own mounting bracket to fit my a stock. If I could get some close ups I can make them pretty easily, would be time consuming but worth it IMHO.

MFC · 03-18-2009, 11:13 PM

Joseph,
It would be illegal for you to make one and attach it to your Luger. It would be considered a short barreled rifle. The BATF exempts the original holster/stock as a collectable and as such would not likely be used in a crime.

Dwight Gruber · 03-19-2009, 01:46 AM

The stock pictured is not for a Luger--Ideal stock holsters were made for more than one gun, popular ones were for Colt revolvers.

Here is a picture of the model for a Luger; note particularly the holster opening, relieved for the toggle ears:

--Dwight

Drat, still can't figure out picture upload... --DG

Edward Tinker · 03-19-2009, 08:40 AM

Dwight, you have an IQ of like 180, you can figure out posting pictures my friend;

Edit; go down, advanced, go down to Manage attachments, then browse and pick photo, then go from there. Put up five, then another five, then another and you'll be good to go.

ed

lugerholsterrepair · 03-19-2009, 05:45 PM

The IDEAL stock was less than ideal..at least for shooting. It digs into your shoulder & is very uncomfortable. It's also a mass of tubing, screws and rivets with a thin leather pocket hanging in the center. Kind of a rube Goldberg contraption. They are worth a lot of money though...

Jerry Burney

03-15-2009, 09:51 PM	#1
Nicholas New User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help Identifying Luger. Hello fellas, I recently acquired a Luger from an estate auction, Im having trouble identifying it. Any help would be very much appreciated. The wood grips have plates that space the wood away from the grip frame. Was there a retrofit to add these smooth grips to commercial Lugers? They also have three notches on the top right hand side of the wood. Another person from the auction asked me If I would trade grips with him, he stated the checkered grips he bought from the auctions are the originals. The grips will not mount onto the frame with the metal spacers installed. Fair trade? Here's some detailed pictures: http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow This picture shows the grip spacers http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/u...23guns0035.jpg Thanks a bunch.

03-15-2009, 10:20 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,010 Thanks: 1,088 Thanked 5,149 Times in 1,694 Posts	No, it is by no means a fair trade. The grips on your gun are early 1900's aftermarket items that are used in conjunction with a telescoping shoulder stock/holster that clips into the slots in the metal backing plates. The grips are worth considerably more than the checkered grips you are being offered. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-16-2009, 10:26 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,010 Thanks: 1,088 Thanked 5,149 Times in 1,694 Posts	Fifty bucks isn't sweet enough. If he gets close to $250 you could start to consider the offer. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-18-2009, 11:13 PM	#9
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Joseph, It would be illegal for you to make one and attach it to your Luger. It would be considered a short barreled rifle. The BATF exempts the original holster/stock as a collectable and as such would not likely be used in a crime. __________________ Mike C.

03-19-2009, 08:40 AM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Dwight, you have an IQ of like 180, you can figure out posting pictures my friend; Edit; go down, advanced, go down to Manage attachments, then browse and pick photo, then go from there. Put up five, then another five, then another and you'll be good to go. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-16-2009, 09:51 PM	#3
Nicholas New User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well! he did offer fifty bucks to sweeten the deal. Thank you very much Mr. Wood. You think I got a good deal, I paid $700? Is the stock like this one? http://www.rwnaf.org/collections/ite...%201900&id=519 Or this one: http://www.lugerlp08.com/lp08_telescopic_stock.htm

03-16-2009, 10:06 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Nicholas, welcome. The first link, the 2nd is VERY rare and worth a lot of money. The first one is the Ideal stock and worth about $900-$1800. The price you paid was very good with some extra magazines, although the holster is a reproduction. I sent you a PM as an Admin... it is best to post pictures to the forum, so members don't have to leave the site. Ed

03-17-2009, 07:34 AM	#6
crc User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: colorado Posts: 66 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	There is a stock for sale on ebay without the grips. Look under luger holsters. Regards, Randy

03-18-2009, 05:50 PM	#8
Nicholas New User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That is very cool. Wonder If I can make my own mounting bracket to fit my a stock. If I could get some close ups I can make them pretty easily, would be time consuming but worth it IMHO.

03-19-2009, 01:46 AM	#10
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	The stock pictured is not for a Luger--Ideal stock holsters were made for more than one gun, popular ones were for Colt revolvers. Here is a picture of the model for a Luger; note particularly the holster opening, relieved for the toggle ears: --Dwight Drat, still can't figure out picture upload... --DG

03-19-2009, 05:45 PM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,768 Thanks: 4,896 Thanked 3,122 Times in 1,433 Posts	The IDEAL stock was less than ideal..at least for shooting. It digs into your shoulder & is very uncomfortable. It's also a mass of tubing, screws and rivets with a thin leather pocket hanging in the center. Kind of a rube Goldberg contraption. They are worth a lot of money though... Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."