Snail Drum on eBay

Tomathvl · 08-23-2004, 07:15 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...265049582&rd=1

Snail Drum to look at.
Tom

Big Norm · 08-24-2004, 01:46 AM

Tomathyl,
the price is within the going range for a type 2 Trommel at American gun shows. This one seems to be a bit pitted. The British have some tough gun laws and there is no recourse if the magazine isn't as advertized. Don't be afraid to ask questions like 'has the magazine been plugged to hold fewer rounds?'. The guy has a pretty good track record. I only have a type 1 Trommel to compare. So I see that the side of the drum that has the screw has concentric circles in the one for sale. My type 1 is flat. That may not mean anything since there were several models of this magazine and three manufactures.
Big Norm

John Sabato · 08-24-2004, 10:09 AM

My advice if anyone is interested in this snail drum is to communicate with the seller immediately (by ask the seller a question) because as soon as the ebay police find a high capacity magazine for sale they will pull all references to the auction and you won't be able to find out who the seller was...

I am also not sure if this magazine can be imported without red tape by the ATF... does anyone have experience in importing hi cpapcity C&R magazines?

the gunman · 08-24-2004, 10:20 AM

It seems to me to be a bit overpriced. For the condtion. I have had one pulled off Ebay last year. Did not take them but a few hours before it was removed. sold it on gunbroker. Was missing parts bad shape.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-24-2004, 08:28 PM

John, On Sept 23 it should become a moot point? Put it in a box and call it a carburetor for an MG. Sort of is isn't it? Jerry Burney

John Sabato · 08-25-2004, 10:07 AM

As far as importation goes, that may be correct Jerry... although the ATF may not lift their regulatory ban on importation... just because the LAW sunsets...

Unfortunately, as far as eBay is concerned... it still falls outside their parameters for material that not prohibited for auction...

LU1900 · 08-25-2004, 10:57 AM

Hello John , I send a mail for the dust cover ;replie:it's selling about 180$ do you think it's a hight price
For me it seems cheap,costly if the right word

John Sabato · 08-25-2004, 01:11 PM

I am sorry Patrice, but I am not aware of the separate value of the dust cover... just that $1000 seems to be common for the snail drum in working condition...

Big Norm · 08-26-2004, 12:59 AM

I gotta find out where you guys buy your authentic snail drums from. At gun shows that I attend, the prices range from $1200 to $1400 with the typical price being about $1250. I don't even live in California where everything is expensive.

Of course, the particular snail drum in question on this thread not only looks a bit pitted, but a person has to also take in the cost of shipping. All this makes this one a bit pricey.
Big Norm

John Sabato · 08-26-2004, 10:42 AM

Big Norm, I don't even own a snail drum! But I watch all the auctions and try to keep a running tally in my head of what some things cost... My figure is just ballpark... and my comment was intended to inform Tomathvl that less than $1000 is not something that I think will happen unless an angry wife or girlfriend is selling stuff

At these prices, it seems I will never own a snail drum unless some enterprising entrepreneur decides he can manufacture them for $100 after the sunset on the Hi-capacity mag and AW ban take effect next month...

Dwight Gruber · 08-26-2004, 10:48 AM

Big Norm,

I buy my $1000 authentic snail drums the same place I buy my $350 Lugers.

--Dwight

Edward Tinker · 08-26-2004, 11:30 AM

Well, I know Dwight enough, that if he has "several" snail drums, gosh, I hope he shares

Ed

Big Norm · 08-27-2004, 02:28 AM

I just hope that when Dwight decides to unload one of his original Type 2's with a dust cover that he remembers me. I have a beautiful 1916 (serial #2989a) that needs something to fill that hole that the original mag normally goes into. All the type 2's that I have seen go for more than $1000 and aren't in that good a shape.
Big Norm <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Henry Bucki · 08-27-2004, 08:21 PM

I gave 1300 for mine and i am still happy with the deal.type 2 I was told.

Big Norm · 08-29-2004, 02:52 AM

I've been thinking about the pricing of Lugers and their accessories since I started posting to this thread. I have come to the conclusion that there is a degree of regionality in the pricing. I cannot disagree with John Sabato and his prices because I know that he is an honest man. I also know what I have seen at the shows that I attend. I have a brother in California who, at times, tells me about prices there. I have come to the conclusion that the prices in California are pretty high.

Here in Michigan, people don't go crazy over Lugers at gun shows like they do in Ohio. I have seen good Lugers just sit on the tables here. I picked up a nice 1916 navy at a show in Michigan at a reasonable price that would have quickly vanished in Ohio. I made an offer and the seller accepted it at the last minute of the last day.Few people even looked at the gun. I showed it to one Luger collector after I bought it and he didn't even know it was there. The gun isn't mint, but not chopped liver either. Its an honest gun.
Big Norm

Jerry · 08-29-2004, 06:32 AM

I just sold one for $1300, 2nd issue with lots of patina on it.

Dwight Gruber · 08-29-2004, 12:31 PM

Big Norm,

I hope you guys realize that my previous comment was a joke...but as far as the regionality of prices is concerned, this is exactly the reason I post my detailed gun show listing, and urge others to do the same. Although now that I think of of it, I'm not sure that sell prices (which I may not be privy to) aren't more pertinent than ask prices, and it should probably include gun dealer (non-show) prices when they crop up, as well.

--Dwight

--Dwight

Edward Tinker · 08-29-2004, 05:46 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dwight Gruber:
Big Norm, I hope you guys realize that my previous comment was a joke...--Dwight<hr /></blockquote>I did, as did Bigger Norman did

, because I figured if you really had more than one, you'd share

and I haven't seen a $350 luger in several years, cuz you can get more than that in parting one out!

Ed

08-23-2004, 07:15 PM	#1
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Snail Drum on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...265049582&rd=1 Snail Drum to look at. Tom

08-24-2004, 10:09 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	My advice if anyone is interested in this snail drum is to communicate with the seller immediately (by ask the seller a question) because as soon as the ebay police find a high capacity magazine for sale they will pull all references to the auction and you won't be able to find out who the seller was... I am also not sure if this magazine can be imported without red tape by the ATF... does anyone have experience in importing hi cpapcity C&R magazines? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-24-2004, 08:28 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,857 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	John, On Sept 23 it should become a moot point? Put it in a box and call it a carburetor for an MG. Sort of is isn't it? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-25-2004, 10:07 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	As far as importation goes, that may be correct Jerry... although the ATF may not lift their regulatory ban on importation... just because the LAW sunsets... Unfortunately, as far as eBay is concerned... it still falls outside their parameters for material that not prohibited for auction... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-25-2004, 10:57 AM	#7
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 902 Thanks: 35 Thanked 463 Times in 194 Posts	Hello John , I send a mail for the dust cover ;replie:it's selling about 180$ do you think it's a hight price For me it seems cheap,costly if the right word __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

08-24-2004, 01:46 AM	#2
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Tomathyl, the price is within the going range for a type 2 Trommel at American gun shows. This one seems to be a bit pitted. The British have some tough gun laws and there is no recourse if the magazine isn't as advertized. Don't be afraid to ask questions like 'has the magazine been plugged to hold fewer rounds?'. The guy has a pretty good track record. I only have a type 1 Trommel to compare. So I see that the side of the drum that has the screw has concentric circles in the one for sale. My type 1 is flat. That may not mean anything since there were several models of this magazine and three manufactures. Big Norm

08-24-2004, 10:20 AM	#4
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	It seems to me to be a bit overpriced. For the condtion. I have had one pulled off Ebay last year. Did not take them but a few hours before it was removed. sold it on gunbroker. Was missing parts bad shape.

08-25-2004, 01:11 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I am sorry Patrice, but I am not aware of the separate value of the dust cover... just that $1000 seems to be common for the snail drum in working condition... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-26-2004, 12:59 AM	#9
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I gotta find out where you guys buy your authentic snail drums from. At gun shows that I attend, the prices range from $1200 to $1400 with the typical price being about $1250. I don't even live in California where everything is expensive. Of course, the particular snail drum in question on this thread not only looks a bit pitted, but a person has to also take in the cost of shipping. All this makes this one a bit pricey. Big Norm

08-26-2004, 10:42 AM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Big Norm, I don't even own a snail drum! But I watch all the auctions and try to keep a running tally in my head of what some things cost... My figure is just ballpark... and my comment was intended to inform Tomathvl that less than $1000 is not something that I think will happen unless an angry wife or girlfriend is selling stuff At these prices, it seems I will never own a snail drum unless some enterprising entrepreneur decides he can manufacture them for $100 after the sunset on the Hi-capacity mag and AW ban take effect next month... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-26-2004, 10:48 AM	#11
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Big Norm, I buy my $1000 authentic snail drums the same place I buy my $350 Lugers. --Dwight

08-26-2004, 11:30 AM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Well, I know Dwight enough, that if he has "several" snail drums, gosh, I hope he shares Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-27-2004, 02:28 AM	#13
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I just hope that when Dwight decides to unload one of his original Type 2's with a dust cover that he remembers me. I have a beautiful 1916 (serial #2989a) that needs something to fill that hole that the original mag normally goes into. All the type 2's that I have seen go for more than $1000 and aren't in that good a shape. Big Norm <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

08-27-2004, 08:21 PM	#14
Henry Bucki User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marietta Ga Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I gave 1300 for mine and i am still happy with the deal.type 2 I was told.

08-29-2004, 02:52 AM	#15
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I've been thinking about the pricing of Lugers and their accessories since I started posting to this thread. I have come to the conclusion that there is a degree of regionality in the pricing. I cannot disagree with John Sabato and his prices because I know that he is an honest man. I also know what I have seen at the shows that I attend. I have a brother in California who, at times, tells me about prices there. I have come to the conclusion that the prices in California are pretty high. Here in Michigan, people don't go crazy over Lugers at gun shows like they do in Ohio. I have seen good Lugers just sit on the tables here. I picked up a nice 1916 navy at a show in Michigan at a reasonable price that would have quickly vanished in Ohio. I made an offer and the seller accepted it at the last minute of the last day.Few people even looked at the gun. I showed it to one Luger collector after I bought it and he didn't even know it was there. The gun isn't mint, but not chopped liver either. Its an honest gun. Big Norm

08-29-2004, 06:32 AM	#16
Jerry Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	I just sold one for $1300, 2nd issue with lots of patina on it. __________________ Jerry

08-29-2004, 12:31 PM	#17
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Big Norm, I hope you guys realize that my previous comment was a joke...but as far as the regionality of prices is concerned, this is exactly the reason I post my detailed gun show listing, and urge others to do the same. Although now that I think of of it, I'm not sure that sell prices (which I may not be privy to) aren't more pertinent than ask prices, and it should probably include gun dealer (non-show) prices when they crop up, as well. --Dwight --Dwight

08-29-2004, 05:46 PM	#18
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Dwight Gruber: <strong>Big Norm, I hope you guys realize that my previous comment was a joke...--Dwight</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I did, as did Bigger Norman did , because I figured if you really had more than one, you'd share and I haven't seen a $350 luger in several years, cuz you can get more than that in parting one out! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV