Unit Marking on Red 9 Broomhandle

RoyA · 09-04-2008, 12:55 PM

Hello everyone,
Can anyone identify the unit marking on this C96?
Thanks kindly for any help you can provide.
Roy

George Anderson · 09-04-2008, 03:40 PM

The only thing I can come up with is Schuetz Polizei Gumbinnen, V Centuria, Waffen nummer 58. If this is correct it would be a post 1918 marking. Does the pistol have a "1920" stamping on it? Has the barrel been cut? What type of rear sight does it have? A couple more photos of the full pistol might help.

RoyA · 09-04-2008, 03:55 PM

Hi George,
Thanks very much for your reply.
There is no "1920" stamping.
Here are some additional pics....
Roy

Don M · 09-04-2008, 04:30 PM

George,

Your ID is pretty much on target. The mark is from the Weimar-era Schutzpolizei in the Gumbinnen district of East Prussia. The Roman V represents the location of the garrison. I don't have my reference (my book manuscript) available but the Gumbinnen district had several garrisons in various cities in the early 1920s, most of which were consolidated into one or two garrisons by the mid-20s. This mark was from one of the smaller early garrisons that was later disbanded. This garrison apparently consisted on only one Hundertschaft (company) because there is no Arabic number preceding the weapon number (58.).

Roy,

This is a very nice reworked Red Nine with a rare police marking. Not many of these markings have survived since they are from an area deep within the Russian zone.

RoyA · 09-04-2008, 04:51 PM

Thank you Don!!!
You've both been a great help!

Don M · 09-05-2008, 10:48 AM

Roy, please check your Private Messages. I have requested permission to include your grip strap photo in my book on German police markings.

RoyA · 09-05-2008, 01:02 PM

Hi Don,
Email sent.
Roy

09-04-2008, 12:55 PM	#1
RoyA New User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Lifetime Member # 0 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unit Marking on Red 9 Broomhandle Hello everyone, Can anyone identify the unit marking on this C96? Thanks kindly for any help you can provide. Roy

09-04-2008, 03:55 PM	#3
RoyA New User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Lifetime Member # 0 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi George, Thanks very much for your reply. There is no "1920" stamping. Here are some additional pics.... Roy Attached Thumbnails

09-04-2008, 04:30 PM	#4
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	George, Your ID is pretty much on target. The mark is from the Weimar-era Schutzpolizei in the Gumbinnen district of East Prussia. The Roman V represents the location of the garrison. I don't have my reference (my book manuscript) available but the Gumbinnen district had several garrisons in various cities in the early 1920s, most of which were consolidated into one or two garrisons by the mid-20s. This mark was from one of the smaller early garrisons that was later disbanded. This garrison apparently consisted on only one Hundertschaft (company) because there is no Arabic number preceding the weapon number (58.). Roy, This is a very nice reworked Red Nine with a rare police marking. Not many of these markings have survived since they are from an area deep within the Russian zone. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

09-05-2008, 10:48 AM	#6
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Roy, please check your Private Messages. I have requested permission to include your grip strap photo in my book on German police markings. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

09-04-2008, 03:40 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	The only thing I can come up with is Schuetz Polizei Gumbinnen, V Centuria, Waffen nummer 58. If this is correct it would be a post 1918 marking. Does the pistol have a "1920" stamping on it? Has the barrel been cut? What type of rear sight does it have? A couple more photos of the full pistol might help.

09-04-2008, 04:51 PM	#5
RoyA New User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Lifetime Member # 0 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you Don!!! You've both been a great help!

09-05-2008, 01:02 PM	#7
RoyA New User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Lifetime Member # 0 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Don, Email sent. Roy