LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > Navy Lugers

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 10-17-2021, 12:52 PM   #21
m1903a3
User
 
m1903a3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 197
Thanks: 26
Thanked 315 Times in 112 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz View Post
I would not send 6 million to their death in concentration camps.

And do we have any evidence of U-boats with Red Cross flags being sunk by the Royal Navy? There were protocols for exchanging prisoners.
Sunk? Not that I know of. But you should read about the Laconia Incident, when the Brits suckered the US into bombing one that was displaying a red cross, had a deck full of civilian survivors and was towing several lifeboats.
__________________
- Mike
Life member: NRA, OVMS, VGCA
Member: NAPCA, N-SSA(Veteran)

Si vis pacem, para bellum
m1903a3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-17-2021, 01:19 PM   #22
Heinz
User
 
Heinz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greenville SC
Posts: 1,004
Thanks: 377
Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts
Default

Mike, thank you for the reference. I looked it up on Wikipedia then chased down some of their references.
The Americans do not appear to have been duped. The orders were given by the Americans knowing the sub was offering aid the shipwrecked victims by an American officer who said he did not think the sub was could legally fly a Red Cross flag. I wonder if he was influenced by the opinion that most of the survivors were Italian POWs of the British. I could find nothing on that aspect other than the Brits noted many survivors were POWs. when they informed the Americans.

So, bad call on the US part.
Heinz is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-17-2021, 04:46 PM   #23
m1903a3
User
 
m1903a3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 197
Thanks: 26
Thanked 315 Times in 112 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz View Post
Mike, thank you for the reference. I looked it up on Wikipedia then chased down some of their references.
The Americans do not appear to have been duped. The orders were given by the Americans knowing the sub was offering aid the shipwrecked victims by an American officer who said he did not think the sub was could legally fly a Red Cross flag. I wonder if he was influenced by the opinion that most of the survivors were Italian POWs of the British. I could find nothing on that aspect other than the Brits noted many survivors were POWs. when they informed the Americans.

So, bad call on the US part.
The Americans returned for a second attack. That was absolutely all on them. But the Brits are the ones who notified the US that the Laconia was sunk by submarine and omitted the information that Hartenstein had radioed in the clear that he was picking up survivors and would not attack any vessels that came to their aid.
__________________
- Mike
Life member: NRA, OVMS, VGCA
Member: NAPCA, N-SSA(Veteran)

Si vis pacem, para bellum
m1903a3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Lugerforum.com