+P ammo in 1904 Luger?

Portland Luger · 07-02-2013, 09:41 PM

Does anyone know if +P ammo is safe to shoot in older Lugers? I have a 1904 Navy model that I'd like to take a hog with, and was wondering if +p is safe in it (or my other Lugers)

Norme · 07-02-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Portland Luger

Does anyone know if +P ammo is safe to shoot in older Lugers? I have a 1904 Navy model that I'd like to take a hog with, and was wondering if +p is safe in it (or my other Lugers)

Please don't!

alanint · 07-02-2013, 10:02 PM

Listen to Norm.......ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! Especially in a rare Navy.

Portland Luger · 07-02-2013, 10:09 PM

Thanks for the quick feedback on the +P ammo. Portland Luger

Lugerdoc · 07-05-2013, 10:33 AM

PL, If you do in fact have the M1904 Navy with the flat recoil spring and toggle lock, I'd be hesitant to shoot it at all. If in reality, you have the M1906 with the COIL recoil spring, I may be OK to shoot +P loads with a new 22 coil, heavy duty spring. TH

Edward Tinker · 07-05-2013, 11:43 AM

I still think that any 90 yr old collector piece is best not to shoot - if it is mismatched, reblued or the like, then that is another matter (I shot a 1913 luger framed mismatch yesterday)

NOTE: I have blown out a breachblock by using +p - it is not recommended by me, but that is because of personal experience. Rather than more oomph, I suggest something like the super expanding cartridges

Or take a 45 or 44 mag for a feral hog

If it is a 1904, then it is worth tens of thousands of dollars, in ANY shape....

Ed

07-02-2013, 09:41 PM	#1
Portland Luger User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	+P ammo in 1904 Luger? Does anyone know if +P ammo is safe to shoot in older Lugers? I have a 1904 Navy model that I'd like to take a hog with, and was wondering if +p is safe in it (or my other Lugers)

07-05-2013, 10:33 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	PL, If you do in fact have the M1904 Navy with the flat recoil spring and toggle lock, I'd be hesitant to shoot it at all. If in reality, you have the M1906 with the COIL recoil spring, I may be OK to shoot +P loads with a new 22 coil, heavy duty spring. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-05-2013, 11:43 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	I still think that any 90 yr old collector piece is best not to shoot - if it is mismatched, reblued or the like, then that is another matter (I shot a 1913 luger framed mismatch yesterday) NOTE: I have blown out a breachblock by using +p - it is not recommended by me, but that is because of personal experience. Rather than more oomph, I suggest something like the super expanding cartridges Or take a 45 or 44 mag for a feral hog *If it is a 1904, then it is worth tens of thousands of dollars, in ANY shape....* Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-02-2013, 10:02 PM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Listen to Norm.......ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! Especially in a rare Navy.

07-02-2013, 10:09 PM	#4
Portland Luger User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Thanks for the quick feedback on the +P ammo. Portland Luger