New to .30 luger, having trouble with my load... Help!

superhondaz50 · 01-14-2009, 01:30 AM

I'm having trouble with my .30 Luger load. I'm running new Win. brass from midway, win primers, Speer .308 100gr plinkers, on top of 4.5grs of Unique. My problem is that no matter what I do the bullet will not properly seat into the case. I get it to the correct overall length, & crimp. After doing this, a single tap to the bullet and it falls into the case. I'm kinda at a loss on what to do. If it helps the gun is a re-blued '20 commercial I picked up at work for 2 bills.
Thanks

LU1900 · 01-14-2009, 01:45 AM

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Sieger · 01-14-2009, 05:26 AM

Hi:

Sounds like your dies have a .311 expander in them. Measure it to find out. Your die maker should be able to provide you with a proper diameter expander. Frankly, I'd rather shoot .311 to.312 bullets through a Luger.

Correct O.A.L. should be 1.173 inches (with round nose bullets), as shorter lengths will cause jamming in the magazine (forget what the reloading manuals say).

Also, your load sounds too light to properly operate the action. Take it up 1/10th of a grain untill you can shoot an entire magazine of 8 without any jamming.

Sieger

davjed · 01-14-2009, 01:41 PM

I have the same problem with any jacketed .308 bullet in my 8 inch .30 caliber. I find that cast bullets (110 gr. flat nose) work well with 4.8gr. Unique.

Sieger · 01-15-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davjed

I have the same problem with any jacketed .308 bullet in my 8 inch .30 caliber. I find that cast bullets (110 gr. flat nose) work well with 4.8gr. Unique.

Hi:

I'm curious, do you buy your bullets or roll you own?

I've been looking for a good T.C. (flat nose) 7.65 bullet for some time know.

Would you share your source or mold maker.

Thanks!

Sieger

Hugh · 01-16-2009, 02:13 AM

Here is the bullet that you want for 30 Luger or Mauser:
http://www.meisterbullets.com/asccus...&navParent=032 H&R 75gr .312RN
stock #RB-32-78-2

joeg · 01-22-2009, 05:41 PM

I had the same problem, I tried different brass and the problem went away. Joe.

Ron Smith · 01-22-2009, 05:48 PM

The .312 Hornady 100 gr XTP bullets work great in every .30 I've loaded them for. They are very accurate.

superhondaz50 · 01-28-2009, 01:10 AM

Okay guys, I ditched to Speer Plinkers (loaded .30 Mauser with em instead) Went down to the dealer, they didnt have any .311 XTP but they did have the .309 XTP's in 90gr. I was able to seat and crimp these bullets with great success! I used 5 grs of Unique and am hoping this load will work for me. Thanks for the help guys.

01-14-2009, 01:30 AM	#1
superhondaz50 User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New to .30 luger, having trouble with my load... Help! I'm having trouble with my .30 Luger load. I'm running new Win. brass from midway, win primers, Speer .308 100gr plinkers, on top of 4.5grs of Unique. My problem is that no matter what I do the bullet will not properly seat into the case. I get it to the correct overall length, & crimp. After doing this, a single tap to the bullet and it falls into the case. I'm kinda at a loss on what to do. If it helps the gun is a re-blued '20 commercial I picked up at work for 2 bills. Thanks

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01-14-2009, 05:26 AM	#3
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Hi: Sounds like your dies have a .311 expander in them. Measure it to find out. Your die maker should be able to provide you with a proper diameter expander. Frankly, I'd rather shoot .311 to.312 bullets through a Luger. Correct O.A.L. should be 1.173 inches (with round nose bullets), as shorter lengths will cause jamming in the magazine (forget what the reloading manuals say). Also, your load sounds too light to properly operate the action. Take it up 1/10th of a grain untill you can shoot an entire magazine of 8 without any jamming. Sieger Last edited by Sieger; 01-15-2009 at 07:08 PM.

01-14-2009, 01:41 PM	#4
davjed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Central Louisiana Posts: 22 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	How about cast bullets...... I have the same problem with any jacketed .308 bullet in my 8 inch .30 caliber. I find that cast bullets (110 gr. flat nose) work well with 4.8gr. Unique.

01-16-2009, 02:13 AM	#6
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Here is the bullet that you want for 30 Luger or Mauser: http://www.meisterbullets.com/asccus...&navParent=032 H&R 75gr .312RN stock #RB-32-78-2 __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

01-22-2009, 05:41 PM	#7
joeg User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N.J. USA Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had the same problem, I tried different brass and the problem went away. Joe.

01-22-2009, 05:48 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The .312 Hornady 100 gr XTP bullets work great in every .30 I've loaded them for. They are very accurate. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-28-2009, 01:10 AM	#9
superhondaz50 User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay guys, I ditched to Speer Plinkers (loaded .30 Mauser with em instead) Went down to the dealer, they didnt have any .311 XTP but they did have the .309 XTP's in 90gr. I was able to seat and crimp these bullets with great success! I used 5 grs of Unique and am hoping this load will work for me. Thanks for the help guys.