Pics of GT's Mag Fixture

Hugh · 03-13-2004, 10:12 AM

Here's pictures of GT's new magazine repair fixture. Included with it were very detailed and clear instructions on how to use it for the various functions. A great tool which should pay for itself in no time by salvaging several useless Luger magazines!

John D. · 03-14-2004, 12:02 PM

Hugh,

That looks OUTSTANDING!!! The craftsmanship looks like it is typical of GT's exceptional workmanship! <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />

A quick question - how the HECK does it work?? I can see where the MAG would lay into tool, and be enclosed - but what happens then???

Thanks for the update!!

John

G.T. · 03-14-2004, 01:40 PM

Hi John! Glad you asked that! (seems like I'm glad alot lately!

) The best analogy I can use, is that working on Luger mags, is a lot like, " Cleaning a small live fish, on wet plastic, with the backside of a dull butter knife, while standing on a hillside, in a high wind!" It's practically impossible without the right tools, and holding fixtures! And, it's even hard with the right tools! The people who have purchased my tools, and have entered the twilight zone, learning curve, can vouch for this!
The fixture/benchplate tool does two important things, it allows you to work on the mag without clamping, (containment), and, it gives you a perfectly flat surface to work on! (accuracy)! I will have to receive some feedback from our members to realize if I was successful in my endeavor! Thanks for the pictures Hugh! Best to you John! til...lat'r....GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

BTW, John, to answer your question, you just put the mag. on there... and beat the H*?*! S#*^/ out of it!!!

John D. · 03-15-2004, 11:45 AM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by G.T.:
....you just put the mag. on there... and beat the H*?*! S#*^/ out of it!!!

<hr /></blockquote>So - you sell the optional BIG HAMMER to go along with this??!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Heh..!!!!

Seriously - so this holder would be used along with the inserts you have as well - to bring them back into SPEC?

My Best to you G.T. - and beautiful work (as always!!!)..!

John Sabato · 03-15-2004, 11:51 AM

So combined with the Luger magazine shell mandril that you sell, this device would be called a "attitude adjustment tool" for Luger mags? My wife wants to know if you have a set of these for husbands...

oops! Gotta go guys!

G.T. · 03-15-2004, 06:26 PM

Hi John & John! Yes! A big hammer is a good tool... at the right time!

And, My wife is definitly keeping a close eye on my attitude... she does own a frying pan... can hurt me both ways!

Kinda like a dog getting beat with his own food dish! Thanks guys! til...lat'r....GT

Luke · 03-15-2004, 09:57 PM

Just received my magazine fixture from GT last week; as usual, excellent workmanship and the product of a lot of experience and knowledge.

My Regards, G.T.

Luke

Heinz · 03-16-2004, 09:02 PM

I used GT's tools this weekend on an Imperial seamed magazine that has a police proof. Somewhere in its career it picked up a few dents and bulges. Also the magazine follower button was slightly bent.

I chucked up a pin punch in the drill press and used the drill press as an arbor press for pressing the magazine bottom pin out through the repair block. Took about minute to chuck up the pin and align the magazine and fixture. No hammering, no new marks on the mag or pin. After removing the pin, the mag bottom, spring, and follower were slipped out. I chucked up a heavier pin punch and went after the Magazine follower button. Since this was bent it was not amenable to shimming but pressed right out using the fixture. Next I dropped the button into the hole in the fixture provided for driving it out and tapped the button head back straight. I used the GT Swage to straighten the mag body and remove the beauty marks.

Reassembled the works using a new GT spring (unnumbered parts are meant to be fixed :-)) I again used the fixture and pressed the parts. Hammer banging is probably what bent the mag button in the first place.

The whole operation took less than 50 minutes including taking pictures. Very satisfied with the tool and the results.

I think John Sabbato has copies of the picture from GT so maybe they will be posted. I no longer have a clue of how to post photos on the forum.

If you do not buy one of these tools just sell me (or Hugh or Sam or Luke) your dented magazines. We will be happy to sell them back when they are fixed. Hugh already has a new crew of armadillos ligned up for mag straightening.

G.T. · 03-16-2004, 09:14 PM

Hi Heinz! And thanks for the feedback on your new tools! When I designed the fixture plate, I never even thought of using the small holes for straightening up the follower button!

I"m impressed! I had to run out to my workshop, and see if it were so.. And it was! So, now, there is another purpose for the tool!

Thanks Heinz, Luke, and all who are using the new tools... best to all, til...lat'r...GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

Hugh · 03-20-2004, 01:52 PM

<img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> Heinz, and the ones they can't fix, they eat! Say's it makes their hide tougher! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Heinz · 03-20-2004, 03:35 PM

Mescal and an FXO, it just dosen't get any better than that!

03-13-2004, 10:12 AM	#1
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Pics of GT's Mag Fixture Here's pictures of GT's new magazine repair fixture. Included with it were very detailed and clear instructions on how to use it for the various functions. A great tool which should pay for itself in no time by salvaging several useless Luger magazines! __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

03-15-2004, 11:45 AM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by G.T.: <strong>......The best analogy I can use, is that working on Luger mags, is a lot like, " Cleaning a small live fish, on wet plastic, with the backside of a dull butter knife, while standing on a hillside, in a high wind!"....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"><img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> _________ <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> __________________ <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by G.T.: <strong>....you just put the mag. on there... and beat the H?! S#*^/ out of it!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">So - you sell the optional BIG HAMMER to go along with this??!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Heh..!!!! Seriously - so this holder would be used along with the inserts you have as well - to bring them back into SPEC? My Best to you G.T. - and beautiful work (as always!!!)..!

03-15-2004, 11:51 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	So combined with the Luger magazine shell mandril that you sell, this device would be called a "attitude adjustment tool" for Luger mags? My wife wants to know if you have a set of these for husbands... oops! Gotta go guys! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-15-2004, 09:57 PM	#7
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Just received my magazine fixture from GT last week; as usual, excellent workmanship and the product of a lot of experience and knowledge. My Regards, G.T. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

03-20-2004, 01:52 PM	#10
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	<img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> Heinz, and the ones they can't fix, they eat! Say's it makes their hide tougher! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

03-14-2004, 12:02 PM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hugh, That looks OUTSTANDING!!! The craftsmanship looks like it is typical of GT's exceptional workmanship! <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> A quick question - how the HECK does it work?? I can see where the MAG would lay into tool, and be enclosed - but what happens then??? Thanks for the update!! John

03-14-2004, 01:40 PM	#3
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Hi John! Glad you asked that! (seems like I'm glad alot lately! ) The best analogy I can use, is that working on Luger mags, is a lot like, " Cleaning a small live fish, on wet plastic, with the backside of a dull butter knife, while standing on a hillside, in a high wind!" It's practically impossible without the right tools, and holding fixtures! And, it's even hard with the right tools! The people who have purchased my tools, and have entered the twilight zone, learning curve, can vouch for this! The fixture/benchplate tool does two important things, it allows you to work on the mag without clamping, (containment), and, it gives you a perfectly flat surface to work on! (accuracy)! I will have to receive some feedback from our members to realize if I was successful in my endeavor! Thanks for the pictures Hugh! Best to you John! til...lat'r....GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> BTW, John, to answer your question, you just put the mag. on there... and beat the H?! S#*^/ out of it!!!

03-15-2004, 06:26 PM	#6
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Hi John & John! Yes! A big hammer is a good tool... at the right time! And, My wife is definitly keeping a close eye on my attitude... she does own a frying pan... can hurt me both ways! Kinda like a dog getting beat with his own food dish! Thanks guys! til...lat'r....GT

03-16-2004, 09:02 PM	#8
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	I used GT's tools this weekend on an Imperial seamed magazine that has a police proof. Somewhere in its career it picked up a few dents and bulges. Also the magazine follower button was slightly bent. I chucked up a pin punch in the drill press and used the drill press as an arbor press for pressing the magazine bottom pin out through the repair block. Took about minute to chuck up the pin and align the magazine and fixture. No hammering, no new marks on the mag or pin. After removing the pin, the mag bottom, spring, and follower were slipped out. I chucked up a heavier pin punch and went after the Magazine follower button. Since this was bent it was not amenable to shimming but pressed right out using the fixture. Next I dropped the button into the hole in the fixture provided for driving it out and tapped the button head back straight. I used the GT Swage to straighten the mag body and remove the beauty marks. Reassembled the works using a new GT spring (unnumbered parts are meant to be fixed :-)) I again used the fixture and pressed the parts. Hammer banging is probably what bent the mag button in the first place. The whole operation took less than 50 minutes including taking pictures. Very satisfied with the tool and the results. I think John Sabbato has copies of the picture from GT so maybe they will be posted. I no longer have a clue of how to post photos on the forum. If you do not buy one of these tools just sell me (or Hugh or Sam or Luke) your dented magazines. We will be happy to sell them back when they are fixed. Hugh already has a new crew of armadillos ligned up for mag straightening.

03-16-2004, 09:14 PM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Hi Heinz! And thanks for the feedback on your new tools! When I designed the fixture plate, I never even thought of using the small holes for straightening up the follower button! I"m impressed! I had to run out to my workshop, and see if it were so.. And it was! So, now, there is another purpose for the tool! Thanks Heinz, Luke, and all who are using the new tools... best to all, til...lat'r...GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

03-20-2004, 03:35 PM	#11
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Mescal and an FXO, it just dosen't get any better than that!