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10-23-2002, 10:09 PM | #1 |
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Blueing question
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I'd like to get your opinions on the gun pictured below (1916 DWM Military), I am going out on a limb here, but doesn't the blueing on the barrel and sideplate look like darker "salt-blueing" rather than "rust blueing" as it should be? Just wondering, Brandon <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" /> Luger on internet gun sales site. |
10-23-2002, 10:18 PM | #2 |
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Just noticed something!
The gun is listed as "all matching", well look at the ALUMINUM bottomed magazine! There is no way short of magic this Luger could be "all matching"!!! Brandon... P.S. Gun is on GunsAmerica.com |
10-23-2002, 10:35 PM | #3 |
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That is mostly true, but many collectors say that a matching magazine is great, but not an end all for matching condition.
It is hard to see on the picture, but the barrel does look different, maybe lighting?
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10-23-2002, 11:01 PM | #4 |
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Barrel and sideplate look like salt bluing to me too!
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The photograph of the Luger presented above is not of sufficient quality or detail to be able to come to any conclusion about the characteristics of its surface blue.
Some speculation based on observation and logic below, followed by answerable questions. I have noticed correct and matching Lugers where the condition of the sideplate is a bit different from the condition of the rest of the gun--usually a bit more rusted or pitted, if the gun is use worn rather than pristine. In my minds eye I recall Lugers where the bluing of the barrel appeared faintly different under close observation, as well. Without certain knowledge, I suspect that barrel steel is a different grade from the steel which makes up the rest of the gun. My observation of side plates leads me to speculate that these are different, as well. I would expect steel of different grades to accept bluing differently, and thus to appear slightly different after decades exposed to the environment. I have seen, and we have all had pointed out, that salt-blued extractors, for instance, 'plum' easily. Can anyone here speak authoritatively about the grades of steel used in various parts of the Luger, and can anyone (Thor??) comment on the bluing characteristics of these various parts? --Dwight |
10-23-2002, 11:12 PM | #6 |
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Sideplate tends to really blue dark and is soft. Barrel surprisingly blues dark too, but I can tell you the barrel and sideplate look over polished and too dark and black to be rust bluing. I would almost (and I said almost) bet on it! In most pics the sideplate will APPEAR darker than the sides as it is canted slightly different angle than the side of the gun.
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10-24-2002, 11:04 AM | #7 |
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I agree with Dwight. The photo was taken out of focus and in unbalanced lighting... While it appears that the barrel and sideplate have been polished to a higher degree than the rest of the pistol, a much better photograph is necessary to properly judge this gun's condition.
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