American Eagle Troubles?

hiredhelp · 12-20-2005, 11:45 PM

American Eagle Question
Hello and thank you for letting me join this forum.
I am very new to collecting and will be very intersted in any ones help. My question now is this. I have an "American Eagle" that I am trying to trade and the potential trader has a concern. My Eagle has a loose safety lever. It will move with very little resistance. It doe snot flop, it is loose. When the pistol is cocked., the lever will still move but has resistance. Is this a real problem? I have fired this pistol just a few times and it is a remarkable pistol. Very accurate up to 30 yards. Any, does the potential have a real concern? Do I need to get this repaired because it is unsafe? Any one that can give me some help, please feel free to do so.
Thank you all and may God Bless.
Michael Edmonds

Doug G. · 12-21-2005, 09:21 AM

Mike, you are not too far fro me I'm in Springfield. I will take a look at it for you if you like. What are you trading for? It is probably a weak or partiall broken grip safety spring. I believe Tom Heller has these for sale.

Lugerdoc · 12-21-2005, 10:40 AM

Mike & Doug, It does sound like a weak grips safety spring to me also. Unfortunately, I'm out of these at the moment, until I can have some more made. Happy Holidays to all, Tom H.

hiredhelp · 12-21-2005, 12:36 PM

Doug and Tom, thank you so much. I am interested in a ball park cost. We may be able to do our business if I allow some compensation.
Doug, can I send you send me your telephone number and a time to call you? If so, please send to meandje@hotmail.com

Lugerdoc · 12-23-2005, 10:13 AM

Michael, In the past when I had these springs, I sold them for $25 each. Hopefully, the price will remain the same, depending on my next production cost. TH

Ponyman · 12-23-2005, 04:47 PM

Mike, welcome to the Forum!

What builder and year is your Eagle? Photos?

Can you be more specific about the lever - is it the grip safety lever on the backstrap, or the thumb safety lever on the left side of the frame?

hiredhelp · 12-28-2005, 05:53 PM

Ponyman;
I do not have a camera that will download to a computer. If you would like, I can take some hard photographs and send, let me know with and address. The lever is the "Thumb Safety". If you would like, you can reach me at: meandje@hotmail.com.
Thank you and may God Bless.
Michael

Ponyman · 12-28-2005, 09:52 PM

Hi Mike ~

There is no spring to "tension" the thumb safety lever - resistance is provided by a small "bump" on the back (or inner) surface of the lever, which rides on the surface behind the lever and falls into the detents at the extremes of the lever travel. Cycling the safety lever thus results in an arc being scratched on the surface. It sounds like the "bump" on your lever was either worn down from excessive cycling or perhaps removed by a previous owner. Another possibility is that the lever is bent outward just a bit.

hiredhelp · 12-29-2005, 08:07 AM

Ponyman,
Thank you. The frame does not show a deep groove from excessive cycling. The "bump" seems to be in tact. It is possible that the lever is sprung. When the action is "cocked", the lever tightens up.
I appreciate your help.
Michael

Ponyman · 12-29-2005, 09:46 AM

Mike,

We never established what gun you have. Does it have a Grip Safety? Do you know who the builder is and approximately what year?

Are you still talking to the potential trader?

~Dave

12-20-2005, 11:45 PM	#1
hiredhelp New User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sullivan, Illinois Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	American Eagle Troubles? American Eagle Question Hello and thank you for letting me join this forum. I am very new to collecting and will be very intersted in any ones help. My question now is this. I have an "American Eagle" that I am trying to trade and the potential trader has a concern. My Eagle has a loose safety lever. It will move with very little resistance. It doe snot flop, it is loose. When the pistol is cocked., the lever will still move but has resistance. Is this a real problem? I have fired this pistol just a few times and it is a remarkable pistol. Very accurate up to 30 yards. Any, does the potential have a real concern? Do I need to get this repaired because it is unsafe? Any one that can give me some help, please feel free to do so. Thank you all and may God Bless. Michael Edmonds __________________ Michael Edmonds

12-21-2005, 09:21 AM	#2
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Mike, you are not too far fro me I'm in Springfield. I will take a look at it for you if you like. What are you trading for? It is probably a weak or partiall broken grip safety spring. I believe Tom Heller has these for sale. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

12-21-2005, 10:40 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mike & Doug, It does sound like a weak grips safety spring to me also. Unfortunately, I'm out of these at the moment, until I can have some more made. Happy Holidays to all, Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-21-2005, 12:36 PM	#4
hiredhelp New User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sullivan, Illinois Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Doug and Tom, thank you so much. I am interested in a ball park cost. We may be able to do our business if I allow some compensation. Doug, can I send you send me your telephone number and a time to call you? If so, please send to meandje@hotmail.com __________________ Michael Edmonds

12-23-2005, 10:13 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Michael, In the past when I had these springs, I sold them for $25 each. Hopefully, the price will remain the same, depending on my next production cost. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-23-2005, 04:47 PM	#6
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Mike, welcome to the Forum! What builder and year is your Eagle? Photos? Can you be more specific about the lever - is it the grip safety lever on the backstrap, or the thumb safety lever on the left side of the frame? __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

12-28-2005, 05:53 PM	#7
hiredhelp New User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sullivan, Illinois Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ponyman; I do not have a camera that will download to a computer. If you would like, I can take some hard photographs and send, let me know with and address. The lever is the "Thumb Safety". If you would like, you can reach me at: meandje@hotmail.com. Thank you and may God Bless. Michael __________________ Michael Edmonds

12-28-2005, 09:52 PM	#8
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi Mike ~ There is no spring to "tension" the thumb safety lever - resistance is provided by a small "bump" on the back (or inner) surface of the lever, which rides on the surface behind the lever and falls into the detents at the extremes of the lever travel. Cycling the safety lever thus results in an arc being scratched on the surface. It sounds like the "bump" on your lever was either worn down from excessive cycling or perhaps removed by a previous owner. Another possibility is that the lever is bent outward just a bit. __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

12-29-2005, 08:07 AM	#9
hiredhelp New User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sullivan, Illinois Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ponyman, Thank you. The frame does not show a deep groove from excessive cycling. The "bump" seems to be in tact. It is possible that the lever is sprung. When the action is "cocked", the lever tightens up. I appreciate your help. Michael __________________ Michael Edmonds

12-29-2005, 09:46 AM	#10
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Mike, We never established what gun you have. Does it have a Grip Safety? Do you know who the builder is and approximately what year? Are you still talking to the potential trader? ~Dave __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams