Strange Luger

Jasta2 · 04-25-2014, 05:36 PM

Listed on Gunbroker
Silesian Commercial Contract Luger
Item # 406121410 Sorry, I do not know how to post a link.
Maybe it's just me, but I have never seen a Silesian Luger.
Some kind of rework I guess, nice grips??
Thanks, Bill

Curss · 04-25-2014, 06:36 PM

Is this the link?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=406121410#PIC

SteveM · 04-25-2014, 06:52 PM

Fantasy..

Dwight Gruber · 04-25-2014, 07:06 PM

This is a counterfeit of a fantasy variation, produced by a known--and successfully sued--Luger fabricator. Be very wary when the source is Prior Lake, MN.

--Dwight

cirelaw · 04-25-2014, 09:02 PM

Dwight whats really crazy is that it has been viewed over 300 times. It gives legit lugers a bad name. Too bad we can't post our honest opinions! He should write for the Enquirer!! ~Eric

nukem556 · 04-25-2014, 09:25 PM

Yeah, the thing is, if you call out one of these scammers and challenge the authenticity of their offerings, Gunbroker will through YOU off the site! Speaks volumes about GB's ethics.

cirelaw · 04-25-2014, 09:38 PM

There is no place for ethics in Capitalism!!!

DavidJayUden · 04-25-2014, 10:17 PM

What a hoot! I saw another jewel this morning and forgot to post it. Going back and looking, guess where it is being sold from?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=412564913

Enjoy.
dju

cirelaw · 04-25-2014, 10:22 PM

"Officers' Special Luger" Thats a new one!!! 'Only 89 days left!!!' 3 months to find a sucker!!~~

DavidJayUden · 04-25-2014, 10:24 PM

Looking at his other listings, this one looks suspect, however I know nothing about HsC's:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=404600222

Believe that he has a Dutch Navy Luger listed too.

dju

sheepherder · 04-25-2014, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

This is a counterfeit of a fantasy variation, produced by a known--and successfully sued--Luger fabricator. Be very wary when the source is Prior Lake, MN.

--Dwight

But what's the story behind the 'Silesian Lugers'??? I don't mean who actually did the mechanics, but what's his "cover story"???

It's the stories behind the Totenkopf, Spandau, and Russian Contract Lugers that make them so fascinating!!!

I mean, if Germany had invaded England and won the war, would we now have "Enfield Lugers"??? With a crown over ER on the chamber???

cirelaw · 04-25-2014, 10:41 PM

Before I judge to harshly, lugers don't seem to be his main product and probobly took them in during a trade or pawn. He obviously does not know how to properly describe his lugers. On its face the chrome has mismatched numbers. On the other had it may be appealing to some one hopefuly in the next 3 months. Caveat Emptor 'Buyer Beware' ~~Eric

SteveM · 04-26-2014, 08:06 AM

There are some Silesia marked Hi Powers but they are post war.

cirelaw · 04-26-2014, 08:20 AM

He is a major dealer. This is no mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GySgt1811 · 04-26-2014, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

"Officers' Special Luger" Thats a new one!!! 'Only 89 days left!!!' 3 months to find a sucker!!~~

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

What a hoot! I saw another jewel this morning and forgot to post it. Going back and looking, guess where it is being sold from?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=412564913

Enjoy.
dju

WOW! What a wonderful find! I'm so excited! That makes my all matching byf 42 nickle plated "Lip Stick" Luger worth 4 times what I paid for it! Why I'll bet The Desert Fox himself carried mine.

Gunny John

PS.

I call Bullsh&t!

cirelaw · 04-26-2014, 02:26 PM

'Probobly an Officers' He would be a dead officer carrying that!! What tumerity!! aka balls~

UF-28 · 04-26-2014, 02:36 PM

Did u notice the grip screws the heads look raised to me ......looks like they were purchased at a local hardware store

Vlim · 04-26-2014, 02:44 PM

I think we have some new nominees for our annual award:

GySgt1811 · 04-26-2014, 02:59 PM

Looking at his other listings, this one looks suspect, however I know nothing about HsC's:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=404600222

David,

I, too, know little about the Mauser HSc, but check out what I've found.

http://old.mauserguns.com/gungalleryModelHSC.asp

Based upon the data here the serial number isn't possible. Also, it does look a little too shaky to me to be worthy of Mauser's workmanship. And other markings are NOT present, as reported in the article, which should be.

Again, I'm throwing the BS flag on this one. Although, I have a warm-from-the-oven slice of crow pie which I am willing to eat when our REAL experts smack me back under the porch.

Regards to all,

Gunny John

Ben M. · 04-26-2014, 09:03 PM

silesia info :

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...544097/Silesia

but i do not think lugers were made for them.

04-25-2014, 05:36 PM	#1
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Strange Luger Listed on Gunbroker Silesian Commercial Contract Luger Item # 406121410 Sorry, I do not know how to post a link. Maybe it's just me, but I have never seen a Silesian Luger. Some kind of rework I guess, nice grips?? Thanks, Bill

04-25-2014, 06:36 PM	#2
Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 303 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	Is this the link? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=406121410#PIC __________________ -Chris

04-26-2014, 02:36 PM	#17
UF-28 User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Toms River,NJ Posts: 37 Thanks: 56 Thanked 14 Times in 4 Posts	Did u notice the grip screws the heads look raised to me ......looks like they were purchased at a local hardware store __________________ ANY LUGER IS A GOOD LUGER

04-26-2014, 02:44 PM	#18
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	I think we have some new nominees for our annual award: Attached Images

04-25-2014, 06:52 PM	#3
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Fantasy..

04-25-2014, 07:06 PM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,291 Times in 426 Posts	This is a counterfeit of a fantasy variation, produced by a known--and successfully sued--Luger fabricator. Be very wary when the source is Prior Lake, MN. --Dwight

04-25-2014, 09:02 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Dwight whats really crazy is that it has been viewed over 300 times. It gives legit lugers a bad name. Too bad we can't post our honest opinions! He should write for the Enquirer!! ~Eric

04-25-2014, 09:25 PM	#6
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Yeah, the thing is, if you call out one of these scammers and challenge the authenticity of their offerings, Gunbroker will through YOU off the site! Speaks volumes about GB's ethics.

04-25-2014, 09:38 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	There is no place for ethics in Capitalism!!!

04-25-2014, 10:17 PM	#8
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	What a hoot! I saw another jewel this morning and forgot to post it. Going back and looking, guess where it is being sold from? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=412564913 Enjoy. dju

04-25-2014, 10:22 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	"Officers' Special Luger" Thats a new one!!! 'Only 89 days left!!!' 3 months to find a sucker!!~~

04-25-2014, 10:24 PM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looking at his other listings, this one looks suspect, however I know nothing about HsC's: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=404600222 Believe that he has a Dutch Navy Luger listed too. dju

04-25-2014, 10:41 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Before I judge to harshly, lugers don't seem to be his main product and probobly took them in during a trade or pawn. He obviously does not know how to properly describe his lugers. On its face the chrome has mismatched numbers. On the other had it may be appealing to some one hopefuly in the next 3 months. Caveat Emptor 'Buyer Beware' ~~Eric

04-26-2014, 08:06 AM	#13
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	There are some Silesia marked Hi Powers but they are post war.

04-26-2014, 08:20 AM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	He is a major dealer. This is no mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-26-2014, 02:26 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	'Probobly an Officers' He would be a dead officer carrying that!! What tumerity!! aka balls~

04-26-2014, 02:59 PM	#19
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	Looking at his other listings, this one looks suspect, however I know nothing about HsC's: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=404600222 David, I, too, know little about the Mauser HSc, but check out what I've found. http://old.mauserguns.com/gungalleryModelHSC.asp Based upon the data here the serial number isn't possible. Also, it does look a little too shaky to me to be worthy of Mauser's workmanship. And other markings are NOT present, as reported in the article, which should be. Again, I'm throwing the BS flag on this one. Although, I have a warm-from-the-oven slice of crow pie which I am willing to eat when our REAL experts smack me back under the porch. Regards to all, Gunny John

04-26-2014, 09:03 PM	#20
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 484 Thanks: 85 Thanked 121 Times in 81 Posts	silesia info : http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...544097/Silesia but i do not think lugers were made for them.