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Unread 11-01-2004, 01:27 PM   #1
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Question Difference Swiss - Original pistols

I have a Mauser Parabellum of ~ 1977, which is hardly shot. I think my 24 rounds ( one mag full of Lapua?´s Luger load - these are He man springs in the mags!!! , and then 4 from each mag of S & B 124 grs SP ) are the most ever shot with that pistol.

Trigger, function, pointability - all tops!

Now: I?´ve read, at least the first newly manufactured pistols after the 2nd WW where rather "Swiss" than the original?!? Whats the difference between German and Swiss variations? I understand the machinery to be bought from Switzerland, but partially replaced, because being worn out. Why should these have another feeling to the hand than "genuine" Lugers ????

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Unread 11-01-2004, 05:54 PM   #2
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The Mauser re-intros have a different feel than the vintage Parabellums. A big part of this difference lies in the fact that the re-intro grips are not as nicely contoured nor as nicely checkered as the vintage grips. Some days I think the re-itro is a bit lighter, but that may be my fevered imagination. I'll have to weigh both one of these days.
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Unread 11-01-2004, 06:02 PM   #3
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Hi Hermann,

The "swiss" lugers made by Mauser and imported to the USA by Interarmco, Inc. in the 1970's had the straight, flat surface of the front grip strap...very similar to the Swiss Bern M1929 lugers made with red, brown, and black plastic grips and magazine bottoms.

Some folks do not like the feel in-the-hand of the front grip strap on these 1970's lugers (and equally on the M1929 Swiss Bern lugers).

Here is a photo of my 1970's "swiss" style luger ensemble :

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/interarms1.jpg_medium_copy3.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/interarms1.jpg_medium_copy3.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

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Unread 11-05-2004, 11:25 PM   #4
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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Nice looking grips, Pete!
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Unread 11-06-2004, 12:41 AM   #5
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Hi Hugh,

Glad you are back 100%...

Yes...I get to admire your fine grip work whenever I go to the range. You cannot imagine the number of compliments I get on the look of the grips.

Had you do the grips almost 1.5 years before I found the holster...but I could not have wished for a nicer color-match...

p.s. I was very close to organizing a little collection here on the Luger Forum to send a Hillary look-alike stripper to your hospital bed side...but was afraid that might have stressed your heart a bit too much... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
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Unread 11-06-2004, 06:44 AM   #6
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Hello Hermann,
First, the Mauser Parabellum made in the 1970-90 era are absolutely â??genuineâ?. The Mauser Parabellum(s) are the last genuine Luger produced by the Mauser in Oberndorf before selling all the production tools and equipments to the Blaser firm on 1999.
Usually the difference is done between Mauser Parabellum produced before and after WWII. Personally, I consider that the post WWII production started with the Parabellum made by Mauser under French control up to 1947. In 1947, the Mauser firm was destroyed by French army.
These Parabellum(s) were made assembling pieces made before the end of WWII. They have a new numbering and stamping patterns and also the bluing is totally different with respect to the previous production. Therefore, in my understanding, is a completely different production.

Coming back to your question, the Mauser Parabellum(s) made in 1970-86 are placed in three sets:
The 29/70 models, very similar to the 29 Swiss model;
The 06/73 models, close to the 06 model;
The Commemorative models: these pistols commemorate the most important models and contracts (the first one is the Bulgarian Commemorative 1975, the last one the LP08 commemorative 1986).

Concerning the tooling, Mauser bought the production from the Berna arsenal but these tools were soon updated with more modern production tools.

The Mauser Parabellum(s) are very accurate pistols.

In my web site there are several pages dedicated to the Mauser Parabellum models, you can easily have a look at them.

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Unread 11-10-2004, 12:59 AM   #7
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"before selling all the production tools and equipments to the Blaser firm on 1999."

Just curious. What does the Blasser firm now do with the tooling they purchased?
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Unread 11-10-2004, 09:43 AM   #8
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I can offer an answer here since Mauro was kind enough to provide some insight on a different thread.

The Blaser Company is part of SIG... they have no CURRENT plans to produce the Parabellum again and the tooling was just part of the Mauser sporting goods merger...
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