WTK: Value of Black Widow Luger at Auction

Cincylance · 11-06-2001, 04:24 PM

Is it worth $1,400?

Please look at the pistol at auction at this link. What is it worth? I'm interested in it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=2379298

Thanks in advance!

Cincylance

God Bless America!

http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=2379298

John D. · 11-06-2001, 08:00 PM

IMHO - yes... *IF* the numbers all match and the holster is correct... To give you an idea of prices - I have a couple of Black Widows. One is in better condition (finish wise) and it's worth about $1200 - 1300. Another I have is in worse condition and is worth about $1000 - $1100. Neither has a holster and this auction is a RIG...

Anyway - get the details from the owner AND AN INSPECTION period. Be sure it is *as represented* (I hate auctions - but I get sucked in too, sometimes )

I'd really like to see what others think as well - so I hope more contribute to this thread!!!

John D.

Big Norm · 11-06-2001, 09:16 PM

Just playing devils advocate for a second. The picture is not real great. The holster looks pretty bad. The guns been on the market for a few days and no offers. Ask the seller for more and better pictures. Watch for sales talk. Ask about return policy. Get a picture of the mag bottom. Many matching alum bottoms are renumbered. Be suspicious of internet buying, many sellers over exagrate the quality of their guns.

Big Norm

John Sabato · 11-06-2001, 09:23 PM

for any internet auction purchase...

Because of the visible condition of the holster, I think it may be a little high in price unless the follow-up photos tell otherwise... Verify each detail that Big Norm mentioned. If you get any more photos from the seller via email, post them here on this thread for followup comments from the crew on value...

regards, and good luck...

John Sabato

John D. · 11-06-2001, 09:50 PM

Agree with everything you said - but on the mag, is that the correct mag type all together?? Also, that mag in the pic doesn't look like it should be numbered at all.. The seller states "correct magazine".. Hmmm.....

Also - as a refence point - -here is a listing Bob Simpson has "BW-4 MAUSER BYF 41 BLACK WIDOW RIG, 9mm, 97% blue, vg bore, exc grips, s/n 23y, w/tool & repro mag in a very good black 41 holster, Third Reich Lugers pp 81, 82 $1400.00"... I've never bought from Bob (I'm too busy spending my money with Ralph )

Great points about buying on an Auction site...!

11-06-2001, 10:35 PM

Boy these guys on the auction sites have no chance against you guys!

Great! I am learning so much on this forum it is amazing!

Ed

Cincylance · 11-06-2001, 10:45 PM

Thank you. I will post follow-up pics if they are available.

Lance Langdon

(Cincylance)

Thor · 11-06-2001, 11:31 PM

Ed, I bet you are learning some, I sure do, the secret is to separate the B"S" from the Good "S". Thor

11-06-2001, 04:24 PM	#1
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WTK: Value of Black Widow Luger at Auction Is it worth $1,400? Please look at the pistol at auction at this link. What is it worth? I'm interested in it. http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=2379298 Thanks in advance! Cincylance God Bless America! http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=2379298

11-06-2001, 08:00 PM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Re: WTK: Value of Black Widow Luger at Auction IMHO - yes... IF the numbers all match and the holster is correct... To give you an idea of prices - I have a couple of Black Widows. One is in better condition (finish wise) and it's worth about $1200 - 1300. Another I have is in worse condition and is worth about $1000 - $1100. Neither has a holster and this auction is a RIG... Anyway - get the details from the owner AND AN INSPECTION period. Be sure it is as represented (I hate auctions - but I get sucked in too, sometimes ) I'd really like to see what others think as well - so I hope more contribute to this thread!!! John D.

11-06-2001, 09:16 PM	#3
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: WTK: Value of Black Widow Luger at Auction Just playing devils advocate for a second. The picture is not real great. The holster looks pretty bad. The guns been on the market for a few days and no offers. Ask the seller for more and better pictures. Watch for sales talk. Ask about return policy. Get a picture of the mag bottom. Many matching alum bottoms are renumbered. Be suspicious of internet buying, many sellers over exagrate the quality of their guns. Big Norm

11-06-2001, 09:23 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Great Advice Big Norm... for any internet auction purchase... Because of the visible condition of the holster, I think it may be a little high in price unless the follow-up photos tell otherwise... Verify each detail that Big Norm mentioned. If you get any more photos from the seller via email, post them here on this thread for followup comments from the crew on value... regards, and good luck... John Sabato

11-06-2001, 09:50 PM	#5
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hi BIG NORM..! Agree with everything you said - but on the mag, is that the correct mag type all together?? Also, that mag in the pic doesn't look like it should be numbered at all.. The seller states "correct magazine".. Hmmm..... Also - as a refence point - -here is a listing Bob Simpson has "BW-4 MAUSER BYF 41 BLACK WIDOW RIG, 9mm, 97% blue, vg bore, exc grips, s/n 23y, w/tool & repro mag in a very good black 41 holster, Third Reich Lugers pp 81, 82 $1400.00"... I've never bought from Bob (I'm too busy spending my money with Ralph ) Great points about buying on an Auction site...!

11-06-2001, 10:35 PM	#6
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Hi BIG NORM..! Boy these guys on the auction sites have no chance against you guys! Great! I am learning so much on this forum it is amazing! Ed

11-06-2001, 10:45 PM	#7
Cincylance User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great advice from all! Thank you! Thank you. I will post follow-up pics if they are available. Lance Langdon (Cincylance)

11-06-2001, 11:31 PM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Hi BIG NORM..! Ed, I bet you are learning some, I sure do, the secret is to separate the B"S" from the Good "S". Thor