Cute or what? 3mm Kolibri - Page 2

saab-bob · 08-04-2014, 07:18 PM

Vlim.
Very nice!
How would that cartridge extract?
Bob

Vlim · 08-04-2014, 07:29 PM

It was extracted using residual gas pressure. This proved to be unreliable and this catridge was quickly replaced with one that had the now familiar extractor groove. Of course, it meant that the Bergmann pistol also had to be modified, an extractor was added.

rhuff · 08-05-2014, 05:14 PM

IIRC (always a big question) the current Beretta "tip-up" in .25cal and 32ACP does not utilize an extractor. It just relies on gas pressure for extraction. That model has been around a long time. I had one in 32ACP a # of years ago.

Vlim · 08-24-2014, 02:46 PM

Here is a more recent artefact from the DWM stores:

A small ammunition crate, sent out from DWM (IWKA by then) in Grötzingen to the chief of the Ulm proof house. Nicely recycled wood, as the inside of the lid still had a shipping label from Dynamit Nobel in Fürth stuck on.

Photos were taken using a HP Scanjet 3800 flatbed scanner. Nice and very helpful inexpensive research tool that I have owned for quite a few years. This thing scans anything from ammo to pistols and even wooden crates.

sheepherder · 08-29-2014, 09:37 AM

According to Forgotten Weapons, a 2.7mm Kolibri is being offered at the upcoming RIAC auction...

http://www.rockislandauction.com/search/aid/62

...With 7 rds of ammunition...

Vlim · 08-29-2014, 10:25 AM

Starting price of 1000 for the gun and 7000 for the rounds

Jim Solomon · 09-07-2014, 04:25 PM

This might be of interest.

http://rockislandauction.blogspot.co...m_medium=email

Jim

08-04-2014, 07:18 PM	#1
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Vlim. Very nice! How would that cartridge extract? Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns" Last edited by saab-bob; 08-04-2014 at 07:20 PM. Reason: 2 different cases.

08-04-2014, 07:29 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,042 Thanks: 1,032 Thanked 3,920 Times in 1,193 Posts	It was extracted using residual gas pressure. This proved to be unreliable and this catridge was quickly replaced with one that had the now familiar extractor groove. Of course, it meant that the Bergmann pistol also had to be modified, an extractor was added. Attached Thumbnails

08-24-2014, 02:46 PM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,042 Thanks: 1,032 Thanked 3,920 Times in 1,193 Posts	Here is a more recent artefact from the DWM stores: A small ammunition crate, sent out from DWM (IWKA by then) in Grötzingen to the chief of the Ulm proof house. Nicely recycled wood, as the inside of the lid still had a shipping label from Dynamit Nobel in Fürth stuck on. Photos were taken using a HP Scanjet 3800 flatbed scanner. Nice and very helpful inexpensive research tool that I have owned for quite a few years. This thing scans anything from ammo to pistols and even wooden crates. Attached Thumbnails

08-29-2014, 09:37 AM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	According to Forgotten Weapons, a 2.7mm Kolibri is being offered at the upcoming RIAC auction... http://www.rockislandauction.com/search/aid/62 ...With 7 rds of ammunition... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

09-07-2014, 04:25 PM	#7
Jim Solomon Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 193 Thanks: 695 Thanked 173 Times in 66 Posts	Kolibri This might be of interest. http://rockislandauction.blogspot.co...m_medium=email Jim __________________ Jim Solomon dent2@frontiernet.net

08-05-2014, 05:14 PM	#3
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,272 Thanks: 2,692 Thanked 959 Times in 705 Posts	IIRC (always a big question) the current Beretta "tip-up" in .25cal and 32ACP does not utilize an extractor. It just relies on gas pressure for extraction. That model has been around a long time. I had one in 32ACP a # of years ago.

08-29-2014, 10:25 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,042 Thanks: 1,032 Thanked 3,920 Times in 1,193 Posts	Starting price of 1000 for the gun and 7000 for the rounds