New to Me 1921 DWM Info and Help

Good-Day · 09-08-2018, 11:57 AM

Good Morning All,

I recently picked up a rather nice 1921 DWM it's Unit Marked
5./A.R.3.30.

The Pistol is very nice overall with some moderate holster wear it's Matching minus the Toggle Wrist Pin which is marked "03" one grip panel is unmarked and the other is also marked "03" ( all I can think is the two Pistols were apart next to each other and dang a bit of part swapping happened )
bore is very nice clean with strong rifleing

I saw some info on the 1920 and 1921's that called these "Sneaks"?
Any info / comments on the Pistol?
Also what does the Unit Marking translate to?

The Veteran which brought this home was attached to the First Special Service Force, 474th Infantry Regiment Co B

I was going to try and see if there was any documentation between the two Units any tips on where to dig up that information?

Thanks in advance for your help and comments

George Anderson · 09-08-2018, 03:04 PM

The grip strap marking indicates 5th Battery, Artillery Regiment 3, weapon 30. The so called "sneaks" are those Weimar era pistols with no maker's marking on the toggle. "Sneak", like "Black Widows" is a US dealer's made-up designation in order to enhance the history of the weapon.

Edward Tinker · 09-08-2018, 03:20 PM

sneaks - when referred to are late 1920's

the 1921 is one of my favorite, its the only year they used the weimar eagle (I call them the dove acceptance markings)

Ed

Ron Wood · 09-08-2018, 04:16 PM

Nice gun! Well done!
Ron

DonVoigt · 09-08-2018, 09:19 PM

Nice catch, Weimar army unit marked pistols are tough to find.

Good-Day · 09-09-2018, 09:59 AM

Thanks for the info and kind words

I've been digging around the Web looking for any history between the Units

No luck so far but the looking has been fun

09-08-2018, 11:57 AM	#1
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 96 Thanks: 81 Thanked 100 Times in 32 Posts	New to Me 1921 DWM Info and Help Good Morning All, I recently picked up a rather nice 1921 DWM it's Unit Marked 5./A.R.3.30. The Pistol is very nice overall with some moderate holster wear it's Matching minus the Toggle Wrist Pin which is marked "03" one grip panel is unmarked and the other is also marked "03" ( all I can think is the two Pistols were apart next to each other and dang a bit of part swapping happened ) bore is very nice clean with strong rifleing I saw some info on the 1920 and 1921's that called these "Sneaks"? Any info / comments on the Pistol? Also what does the Unit Marking translate to? The Veteran which brought this home was attached to the First Special Service Force, 474th Infantry Regiment Co B I was going to try and see if there was any documentation between the two Units any tips on where to dig up that information? Thanks in advance for your help and comments

09-08-2018, 03:20 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	sneaks - when referred to are late 1920's the 1921 is one of my favorite, its the only year they used the weimar eagle (I call them the dove acceptance markings) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-08-2018, 04:16 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Nice gun! Well done! Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-08-2018, 09:19 PM	#5
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Nice catch, Weimar army unit marked pistols are tough to find. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

09-08-2018, 03:04 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	The grip strap marking indicates 5th Battery, Artillery Regiment 3, weapon 30. The so called "sneaks" are those Weimar era pistols with no maker's marking on the toggle. "Sneak", like "Black Widows" is a US dealer's made-up designation in order to enhance the history of the weapon.

09-09-2018, 09:59 AM	#6
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 96 Thanks: 81 Thanked 100 Times in 32 Posts	Thanks for the info and kind words I've been digging around the Web looking for any history between the Units No luck so far but the looking has been fun