30 Luger Cartridge Conversion - Page 3

elmoroz · 03-27-2016, 01:12 PM

Here in Italy, 9mm isn't allowed, so we shoot a lot 9x21 IMI. I just use a LEE 4-dies-kit to form 9x21 IMI shells into .30 luger shells, no trimming, little crimping. They work just fine on mine.

rhuff · 03-27-2016, 05:22 PM

That is good to know. I have no idea how hard it might be here in the USA to find/purchase 9X21 IMI brass, but I will look and see.

elmoroz · 03-28-2016, 08:55 PM

Ah.. I almost forgot.. I use 93gn copper plated Target bullets...http://www.targetbullets.it/copper-s...w_2090140.html

Chickenthief · 01-11-2017, 02:58 PM

Here's my take on using alternative resources.
The IPSC guys shoot major using the mildest loading that works and that is 38 Super.
So over the years i have picked up 200+ and they have just been sitting there waiting.
I tried one through the 7,65 sizer and what du you know it only needs a trim before it's finished and because it's a (thin) pistol cartridge no reaming nessesary :-)

What to shoot, well i bought a Lee .311-93-1R mould and cast up a handfull.
Jacketed speeds with such a small cast bullet might be to much so i took on a quest to make my own freechecks gear.
Freechecks are a gascheck made from aluminium beer can and crimped onto a non gascheck bullet.

Now i only need the police to get finished with my permit and then i'll report back with results.

Cases:

Freechecks:

sheepherder · 11-19-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chickenthief

Now i only need the police to get finished with my permit and then i'll report back with results.

It would be a big help if you attached your pics here on LugerForum. That way, they will still be here next year for other members to view.

Chickenthief · 01-11-2017, 02:59 PM

Bullets:

Chickenthief · 02-27-2017, 08:11 PM

Now i have loaded and fired some of those converted 38 super cases.
The original case is sturdy as is and the necked down case has way thick case necks, so much so that a loaded round wont chamber. So the past day i have reamed the inside of the neck on 200 cases. Now i can seat a .311" cast bullet and keep outside neck below .332".

Before reaming wall thickness was something like .016" and now more like .0095".
The Lee sizer works brass down to @.326" and that left the inside neck at @.296", that wont work. After reaming, necks are now @.307". Seat a bullet and necks are just shy of .332" and pass the plunk test.

So store bought brass for jacketed and these for cast.

MJI-1198 · 11-19-2018, 04:51 PM

Wow, I guess I was lucky living in NH. most of my life, most the big gunshops always seemed to have .30 Luger on the shelf and it was always at gunshows. I have several .30's and over a thousand good cases, I like the old Remington dark green boxes when I find them.
.30 Mauser could be tough to find sometimes till the Communist's started selling Tokarov ammo here. 8x50 Rim Mannlicher used to be a pain, but now that PPU imports brass for the 8x56 Rim Hungarian that's no longer a problem, I just size in my 8x50 die and trim to length.

03-27-2016, 01:12 PM	#1
elmoroz New User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	9x21 IMI to .30 Luger Here in Italy, 9mm isn't allowed, so we shoot a lot 9x21 IMI. I just use a LEE 4-dies-kit to form 9x21 IMI shells into .30 luger shells, no trimming, little crimping. They work just fine on mine.

03-27-2016, 05:22 PM	#2
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,272 Thanks: 2,692 Thanked 959 Times in 705 Posts	That is good to know. I have no idea how hard it might be here in the USA to find/purchase 9X21 IMI brass, but I will look and see.

03-28-2016, 08:55 PM	#3
elmoroz New User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ah.. I almost forgot.. I use 93gn copper plated Target bullets...http://www.targetbullets.it/copper-s...w_2090140.html

01-11-2017, 02:58 PM	#4
Chickenthief User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Denmark Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 131 Times in 48 Posts	Here's my take on using alternative resources. The IPSC guys shoot major using the mildest loading that works and that is 38 Super. So over the years i have picked up 200+ and they have just been sitting there waiting. I tried one through the 7,65 sizer and what du you know it only needs a trim before it's finished and because it's a (thin) pistol cartridge no reaming nessesary :-) What to shoot, well i bought a Lee .311-93-1R mould and cast up a handfull. Jacketed speeds with such a small cast bullet might be to much so i took on a quest to make my own freechecks gear. Freechecks are a gascheck made from aluminium beer can and crimped onto a non gascheck bullet. Now i only need the police to get finished with my permit and then i'll report back with results. Cases: Freechecks:

01-11-2017, 02:59 PM	#6
Chickenthief User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Denmark Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 131 Times in 48 Posts	Bullets:

02-27-2017, 08:11 PM	#7
Chickenthief User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Denmark Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 131 Times in 48 Posts	Now i have loaded and fired some of those converted 38 super cases. The original case is sturdy as is and the necked down case has way thick case necks, so much so that a loaded round wont chamber. So the past day i have reamed the inside of the neck on 200 cases. Now i can seat a .311" cast bullet and keep outside neck below .332". Before reaming wall thickness was something like .016" and now more like .0095". The Lee sizer works brass down to @.326" and that left the inside neck at @.296", that wont work. After reaming, necks are now @.307". Seat a bullet and necks are just shy of .332" and pass the plunk test. So store bought brass for jacketed and these for cast.

11-19-2018, 04:51 PM	#8
MJI-1198 New User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wow, I guess I was lucky living in NH. most of my life, most the big gunshops always seemed to have .30 Luger on the shelf and it was always at gunshows. I have several .30's and over a thousand good cases, I like the old Remington dark green boxes when I find them. .30 Mauser could be tough to find sometimes till the Communist's started selling Tokarov ammo here. 8x50 Rim Mannlicher used to be a pain, but now that PPU imports brass for the 8x56 Rim Hungarian that's no longer a problem, I just size in my 8x50 die and trim to length.