Pre-production LP08 stock reproduction.

mauro · 07-03-2003, 05:29 PM

Pre-production LP08 stock reproduction.

Hello everybody ,
I have contacted the German dealer Transarms that commercialises this very interesting reproduction of the pre-production LP08 stock. The original stocks are very rare and were used with pre-production LP08 model 1912-1913. These stocks were fitted inside pig skin holster. I spent few pages in my book in the analysis of the stocks and holsters.

This reproduction seems well done. The price is 590 euros plus ship cost.

I am trying to have a reduction for cumulative orders. So please contact me if you are interested.

Let me knowÃ¢?Â¦

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Pete Ebbink · 07-03-2003, 05:49 PM

590.00 Euro = 678.503 USD

EUR = 1.15000 USD 1 USD = 0.869562 EUR

Navy · 07-03-2003, 08:43 PM

All,
Unless this has been added to the ATF exemption list, be aware that attaching this stock to ANY Luger is a Federal Firearms violation in the USA and can get you 10 years in Club Fed. There is NO parole in the Federal court system.
Tom A.

jean · 07-03-2003, 08:52 PM

why is that...juat attaching a stock to a pitol???sorry im canadian.hehe

Navy · 07-03-2003, 08:53 PM

Ain't no reason, just the law.
Tom A

jean · 07-03-2003, 08:54 PM

lmao...laws are made stupidly..no thought involved i think

Navy · 07-03-2003, 08:56 PM

Amen. I am very glad I don't get all the government I pay for.
Tom A

Imperial Arms · 07-04-2003, 02:16 AM

Although I might be playing with words, it is probably legal to buy the stock and own it in the US, but it might be illegal to attach it to a Luger pistol. I see no harm in having such a stock in a gun room laying next to a LP08, but it would not be advisable to take it out to a shooting range which could lead you to 'Club Fed'.

For those collectors who wish to pay 10% of the price instead of the 'real deal', this is not a bad way to go.

Albert

Ron Wood · 07-04-2003, 12:48 PM

I guess I am becoming a tightwad in my old age, but to me nearly $700, considering shipping, insurance, etc., is about $300-$400 too high for a reproduction item that has very little relevance to anyoneÃ¢??s collection. Granted, it took some investment to tool up to produce this stock, but what is the point in owning one? Unless you have a VERY early artillery to go with it, it is only a curiosity that is nice to know about but isnÃ¢??t original and has not much intrinsic worth. As far as actually using it to shoot with, it has little advantage over a board stock, and you certainly wouldnÃ¢??t want to put a nice Luger inside it (take a look at the wear on otherwise mint broomhandle Mausers).

From the photo, the finish on the hardware is mediocre at best. I would like to see a close up of the wood to metal fit of the attaching iron to see if it is as poorly done as the earlier reproductions of this stock that I have seen. Perhaps this version is of better quality, but I think it is for the individual that owns everything else and can afford to spend the money.

Sorry, I havenÃ¢??t had my morning coffee yet and I am still grumpy. My apologies.

I have decided to add a post script. It would be a nice addition to an advanced artillery Luger collection as a display piece. (I have had my coffee now).

Imperial Arms · 07-04-2003, 01:33 PM

Hey Ron,

Is that coffee with one or two sugars?!!

I agree that the price is a little steep for a repro stock, but it would depend on the quality of finish and the metal/wood fit as you mentioned.

We will see how much the price decreases down the road.

How do you like your eggs?

Cheers,
Albert

Luke · 07-04-2003, 03:17 PM

Have to agree with Ron. While it is an interesting piece and would make a nice curiosity item to add to a collection, that's too much money for a part which never actually went into German military or commercial production.

Duh . . . having said that, I just remembered that the 45 Luger never went into production either.

I would love to own one of these stocks, but it will have to drop considerably in price before I can justify it. Shoot . . . one can get a pretty good "shooter" Luger for that kind of money.

Luke

John Sabato · 07-07-2003, 10:55 AM

To all,

These stocks have recently appeared multiple times for sale on eBay and I don't think they are drawing much in price... While a novelty item, I agree that I don't have a place for one at the asking price mentioned above... especially if I would have to pay the $200 National Firearms Act Tax for creating a short barreled rifle to use one!

If they interest you, I encourage you to obey the letter of the law in obtaining and owning and using one... and to watch ebay... because I think they have been selling for only a couple of hundred dollars or less...

07-03-2003, 05:29 PM	#1
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Pre-production LP08 stock reproduction. Pre-production LP08 stock reproduction. Hello everybody , I have contacted the German dealer Transarms that commercialises this very interesting reproduction of the pre-production LP08 stock. The original stocks are very rare and were used with pre-production LP08 model 1912-1913. These stocks were fitted inside pig skin holster. I spent few pages in my book in the analysis of the stocks and holsters. This reproduction seems well done. The price is 590 euros plus ship cost. I am trying to have a reduction for cumulative orders. So please contact me if you are interested. Let me knowÃ¢?Â¦ http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/pp1.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/pp2.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/pp3.jpg __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-03-2003, 08:52 PM	#4
jean User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	why is that...juat attaching a stock to a pitol???sorry im canadian.hehe __________________ I AM THEREFORE I DO

07-03-2003, 08:54 PM	#6
jean User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	lmao...laws are made stupidly..no thought involved i think __________________ I AM THEREFORE I DO

07-04-2003, 12:48 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	I guess I am becoming a tightwad in my old age, but to me nearly $700, considering shipping, insurance, etc., is about $300-$400 too high for a reproduction item that has very little relevance to anyoneÃ¢??s collection. Granted, it took some investment to tool up to produce this stock, but what is the point in owning one? Unless you have a VERY early artillery to go with it, it is only a curiosity that is nice to know about but isnÃ¢??t original and has not much intrinsic worth. As far as actually using it to shoot with, it has little advantage over a board stock, and you certainly wouldnÃ¢??t want to put a nice Luger inside it (take a look at the wear on otherwise mint broomhandle Mausers). From the photo, the finish on the hardware is mediocre at best. I would like to see a close up of the wood to metal fit of the attaching iron to see if it is as poorly done as the earlier reproductions of this stock that I have seen. Perhaps this version is of better quality, but I think it is for the individual that owns everything else and can afford to spend the money. Sorry, I havenÃ¢??t had my morning coffee yet and I am still grumpy. My apologies. I have decided to add a post script. It would be a nice addition to an advanced artillery Luger collection as a display piece. (I have had my coffee now). __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-04-2003, 03:17 PM	#11
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Have to agree with Ron. While it is an interesting piece and would make a nice curiosity item to add to a collection, that's too much money for a part which never actually went into German military or commercial production. Duh . . . having said that, I just remembered that the 45 Luger never went into production either. I would love to own one of these stocks, but it will have to drop considerably in price before I can justify it. Shoot . . . one can get a pretty good "shooter" Luger for that kind of money. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

07-03-2003, 05:49 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	590.00 Euro = 678.503 USD EUR = 1.15000 USD 1 USD = 0.869562 EUR

07-03-2003, 08:43 PM	#3
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	All, Unless this has been added to the ATF exemption list, be aware that attaching this stock to ANY Luger is a Federal Firearms violation in the USA and can get you 10 years in Club Fed. There is NO parole in the Federal court system. Tom A.

07-03-2003, 08:53 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Ain't no reason, just the law. Tom A

07-03-2003, 08:56 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Amen. I am very glad I don't get all the government I pay for. Tom A

07-04-2003, 02:16 AM	#8
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Although I might be playing with words, it is probably legal to buy the stock and own it in the US, but it might be illegal to attach it to a Luger pistol. I see no harm in having such a stock in a gun room laying next to a LP08, but it would not be advisable to take it out to a shooting range which could lead you to 'Club Fed'. For those collectors who wish to pay 10% of the price instead of the 'real deal', this is not a bad way to go. Albert

07-04-2003, 01:33 PM	#10
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Hey Ron, Is that coffee with one or two sugars?!! I agree that the price is a little steep for a repro stock, but it would depend on the quality of finish and the metal/wood fit as you mentioned. We will see how much the price decreases down the road. How do you like your eggs? Cheers, Albert

07-07-2003, 10:55 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	To all, These stocks have recently appeared multiple times for sale on eBay and I don't think they are drawing much in price... While a novelty item, I agree that I don't have a place for one at the asking price mentioned above... especially if I would have to pay the $200 National Firearms Act Tax for creating a short barreled rifle to use one! If they interest you, I encourage you to obey the letter of the law in obtaining and owning and using one... and to watch ebay... because I think they have been selling for only a couple of hundred dollars or less... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*