Grips

Bart · 06-07-2002, 10:48 AM

I am wondering if 39.99 plus S&H for new Walnut grips is a "good deal"? Can anyone give me an idea of what I should be paying? Also, are there any available from anyone that is a member of this forum, as I would much rather do business here with credible "friends".
Thanks,
Bart <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

AGE · 06-07-2002, 10:55 AM

I would suggest you contact Hugh Clark, one of this forum's members. He is evidently the resident grip guru. He makes and repairs grips (and probably wheels and deals in grips also). He helped me recently and was quick and skilled.

AGE

Hugh · 06-07-2002, 04:59 PM

Bart,

That is about the going gun show rate for one brand of walnut grips that I have encountered (forgot the brand). They will fit fairly decently, but not like the originals. They also have an uncheckered, thick edge and thick corners at the bottom. You can buy similar grips made of Cocobolo, a pretty South American hardwood from SARCO for around $17. The SARCO grips are too thick and checkered 18 LPI.

I sand down the SARCO to original grip thickness, rechecker in 20 LPI and sell for $50 full checkered or $85 for the border checkered pattern.

The best repro grips are made by Nil-Grif in Germany. They fit like the originals. You can buy them for around $60 for checkered and $50 for smooth from their distributer in Texas. I buy the smooth and checker in a border pattern and sell for $125. There are a couple of pictures elsewhere on the forum that will show you what a border checkered pattern looks like.

Hugh · 06-08-2002, 12:16 AM

Bart,

If you are considering the grips on Gunbroker Item #4189346, those sure look like the Cocobolo ones that SARCO sells for around $17. SARCO calls theirs Walnut also, but they aren't. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" />

Garfield · 06-08-2002, 11:12 PM

Hugh:

Could you supply me with Nil-giffs suppliers address? Do they have a web-site/

Regards,

Hugh · 06-09-2002, 12:08 AM

www.nill-griffe.com (German Site)

www.nill-grips.com (US site)

email: info@nil-grips.com

Nill-grips USA,LLC
PO Box 1916
Bandera, Tx 78003

PH: 830 634 3131
FAX: 830 634 2555

<img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />

Garfield · 06-09-2002, 03:45 PM

Hugh:

Input much appreciated.

Good Hunting,

WG

Bart · 06-10-2002, 03:02 PM

Hugh,

Thanks for the information. In regard to the Cocobolo checkered grips that you sell, do you require any lead time? Or, do you maintain an inventory? Also, do the boardered grips tend to be a little more "hearty" due to the checkering not going all the way our to the sides of the grips? I want to put them on a "shooter" and want them to be the strongest they can be.
Thanks,
Bart

Hugh · 06-10-2002, 05:06 PM

Bart,

I have one pair of Cocobolo grips on hand that are sanded and waiting to be checkered. Yes, the bordered grips are slightly thicker at the edges due to not being checkered, but not as thick as the Nill's.

Since I get the Nill grips smooth and they do not need to have the original checkering sanded off, they are somewhat thicker than the Cocobolo grips. In other words the "strongest" would be the bordered Nill ones. <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Bart · 06-17-2002, 03:26 PM

Hugh,
Thank you for the information, and sorry it took so long to respond. Been traveling lately. I do have one other question, and it is in regard to a second Luger that I have (not the shooter that I am looking to replace the grips on).

It is a 1939 "42" 'n' serial number that came to me with the black bakelite (or they may be plastic) grips. The right side seems more original than the left, as it has the screw hole inside, but just doesnt fit-like-a-glove on the Luger. The other side fits better, but has 2 screw holes on the inside. In any event, they don't seem to be a matched pair, which leads me to ask, what grips actually did come with the above Luger? Can anyone shed some light on this subject?
Thanks,
Bart [img]confused.gif[/img]

John Sabato · 06-17-2002, 03:32 PM

i am sure that someone will post with authoritative information, but just from my recollection, this gun should have wood grips...

Thor · 06-17-2002, 03:53 PM

As issue would be wood grips, Still mentions arsenal replacements sometimes were the black plastic ones on Lugers eariler than 1940.

Bart · 06-17-2002, 05:10 PM

Thanks Thor...any thoughts about that one side having TWO screw holes in the back?

Bart <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />

Thor · 06-17-2002, 05:59 PM

Beats me Bart, perhaps others will know! [img]confused.gif[/img]

saxman · 06-18-2002, 02:12 PM

These are the same grips that CDNN is selling for $18.99 on their web site. The 'gunbroker' seller even uses the picture from the CDNN site.

Bart · 06-18-2002, 05:10 PM

OK, I give up...tried searching for CDNN and could not find a link. What does it stand for, and to you have the web address? [img]confused.gif[/img]

Herb · 06-18-2002, 09:02 PM

Bart, try http://www.cdnninvestments.com/luger.html

saxman · 06-18-2002, 09:41 PM

That's it, Herb. So how do those grips look to you guys?

Hugh · 06-18-2002, 11:22 PM

Looks like the same Cocobolo ones made in India that SARCO sells for the same price. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Don · 06-21-2002, 03:46 PM

Don't the SARCO grips have coarser checkering? Or are my eyes just going bad??? [img]eek.gif[/img]

06-07-2002, 10:48 AM	#1
Bart User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 85 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grips I am wondering if 39.99 plus S&H for new Walnut grips is a "good deal"? Can anyone give me an idea of what I should be paying? Also, are there any available from anyone that is a member of this forum, as I would much rather do business here with credible "friends". Thanks, Bart <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

06-07-2002, 10:55 AM	#2
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would suggest you contact Hugh Clark, one of this forum's members. He is evidently the resident grip guru. He makes and repairs grips (and probably wheels and deals in grips also). He helped me recently and was quick and skilled. AGE __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

06-07-2002, 04:59 PM	#3
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Bart, That is about the going gun show rate for one brand of walnut grips that I have encountered (forgot the brand). They will fit fairly decently, but not like the originals. They also have an uncheckered, thick edge and thick corners at the bottom. You can buy similar grips made of Cocobolo, a pretty South American hardwood from SARCO for around $17. The SARCO grips are too thick and checkered 18 LPI. I sand down the SARCO to original grip thickness, rechecker in 20 LPI and sell for $50 full checkered or $85 for the border checkered pattern. The best repro grips are made by Nil-Grif in Germany. They fit like the originals. You can buy them for around $60 for checkered and $50 for smooth from their distributer in Texas. I buy the smooth and checker in a border pattern and sell for $125. There are a couple of pictures elsewhere on the forum that will show you what a border checkered pattern looks like. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-09-2002, 12:08 AM	#6
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	www.nill-griffe.com (German Site) www.nill-grips.com (US site) email: info@nil-grips.com Nill-grips USA,LLC PO Box 1916 Bandera, Tx 78003 PH: 830 634 3131 FAX: 830 634 2555 <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-10-2002, 05:06 PM	#9
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Bart, I have one pair of Cocobolo grips on hand that are sanded and waiting to be checkered. Yes, the bordered grips are slightly thicker at the edges due to not being checkered, but not as thick as the Nill's. Since I get the Nill grips smooth and they do not need to have the original checkering sanded off, they are somewhat thicker than the Cocobolo grips. In other words the "strongest" would be the bordered Nill ones. <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-08-2002, 12:16 AM	#4
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Bart, If you are considering the grips on Gunbroker Item #4189346, those sure look like the Cocobolo ones that SARCO sells for around $17. SARCO calls theirs Walnut also, but they aren't. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-08-2002, 11:12 PM	#5
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hugh: Could you supply me with Nil-giffs suppliers address? Do they have a web-site/ Regards,

06-09-2002, 03:45 PM	#7
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hugh: Input much appreciated. Good Hunting, WG

06-10-2002, 03:02 PM	#8
Bart User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 85 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hugh, Thanks for the information. In regard to the Cocobolo checkered grips that you sell, do you require any lead time? Or, do you maintain an inventory? Also, do the boardered grips tend to be a little more "hearty" due to the checkering not going all the way our to the sides of the grips? I want to put them on a "shooter" and want them to be the strongest they can be. Thanks, Bart

06-17-2002, 03:26 PM	#10
Bart User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 85 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hugh, Thank you for the information, and sorry it took so long to respond. Been traveling lately. I do have one other question, and it is in regard to a second Luger that I have (not the shooter that I am looking to replace the grips on). It is a 1939 "42" 'n' serial number that came to me with the black bakelite (or they may be plastic) grips. The right side seems more original than the left, as it has the screw hole inside, but just doesnt fit-like-a-glove on the Luger. The other side fits better, but has 2 screw holes on the inside. In any event, they don't seem to be a matched pair, which leads me to ask, what grips actually did come with the above Luger? Can anyone shed some light on this subject? Thanks, Bart [img]confused.gif[/img]

06-17-2002, 03:32 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	i am sure that someone will post with authoritative information, but just from my recollection, this gun should have wood grips... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-17-2002, 03:53 PM	#12
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	As issue would be wood grips, Still mentions arsenal replacements sometimes were the black plastic ones on Lugers eariler than 1940. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-17-2002, 05:10 PM	#13
Bart User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 85 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Thor...any thoughts about that one side having TWO screw holes in the back? Bart <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />

06-17-2002, 05:59 PM	#14
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Beats me Bart, perhaps others will know! [img]confused.gif[/img] __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-18-2002, 02:12 PM	#15
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	These are the same grips that CDNN is selling for $18.99 on their web site. The 'gunbroker' seller even uses the picture from the CDNN site. __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.

06-18-2002, 05:10 PM	#16
Bart User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 85 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK, I give up...tried searching for CDNN and could not find a link. What does it stand for, and to you have the web address? [img]confused.gif[/img]

06-18-2002, 09:02 PM	#17
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Bart, try http://www.cdnninvestments.com/luger.html __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

06-18-2002, 09:41 PM	#18
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's it, Herb. So how do those grips look to you guys? __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.

06-18-2002, 11:22 PM	#19
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Looks like the same Cocobolo ones made in India that SARCO sells for the same price. [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-21-2002, 03:46 PM	#20
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't the SARCO grips have coarser checkering? Or are my eyes just going bad??? [img]eek.gif[/img]