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Unread 09-17-2009, 03:36 PM   #1
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Could someone provide the necessary info needed to make a reasonable reproduction of a Luger lanyard? Maybe even a photo of both ends?

It would be much appreciated.
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Unread 09-17-2009, 03:39 PM   #2
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Jerry Burney (lugerholsterrepair) makes an exact reproduction.
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Jerry,

Can you post a picture of one and tell us what you charge?

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Unread 09-17-2009, 04:42 PM   #4
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Gib:
See ebay item
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reproduction-Lug...d=p3286.c0.m14

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This THING on Ebay is a horrible abomination. It's as if the fellow saw an original Luger lanyard while wearing beer glasses and cobbled it together from what he remembered after a hard drunk. I see the first copy of this tangled mess sold for 50 bucks. I didn't know whether to laugh or puke.
My lanyards are as close to originals as you are likely to get. I currently have just 2 in stock. I only make a dozen or so a year. $105.00 shipped.
I am sure if you search on this site for lanyards many photo's will appear.

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I have a heavy brass swivel like the one in the photo on my dog lead. I've seen some pretty doggy Lugers but even they don't deserve crap like that.

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I own one of Jerry's. Those whom I showed, swore it was an original. Another piece or "Jerry Genius"
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Jerry,

PM sent - I'll take one!

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Mr. Roscoe at CMR offers repros for $35 US. He is located in the U.K. however. He offers a nice 'REPRO" Arty leather set-up also. I have both of these items and am happy with them. Nice guy to deal with via E-mail ( you get prompt answers ). I think he is a member of this forum also?? Just my $.02. Joe
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Joe, Yes..you are correct on at least one count. CMR does offer a reproduction Luger Lanyard. The pakistani fellow who makes them has a pair of beer goggles too.

There is a great deal of difference in Pakistani reproduction Luger items and original German made items. Some people can appreciate that difference. Some just don't care. That's what keeps CMR in business.

I strive to take the time and trouble to accurately research and produce my pieces as close as humanly possible to original made period pieces. This takes a huge amount of time, patience, research and hard work. I like to think I provide advanced collectors with a good choice between cheap reproductions and originals at a fair price.

Those who are happy with cheap inaccurate reproductions that are but a facsimily of what they are supposed to be....are welcome to them. This is what makes the World go round.

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And I'll have the other please.

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Steve, You can send $105 to my address seen in my posts. If you would like to PayPal send $110 to magicbelle@earthlink.net

Thanks to both Steve and Wayne for your patronage. Wayne..your lanyard is in tomorrows US mail Priority.

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Thanks to Jerry for educating the forum on Pakistani reproduction lanyard quality, and to Calibrator for letting the forum know that members have an alternative to the best... but having seen a lanyard produced by Jerry, and the one on ebay... they have alternatives, but really only one choice...
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Jerry:

In my reference to the one on Ebay, I was showing an option of whats outthere to Wayne.
I agree with your assessment of the poor quality of the Ebay item. I have one of your
Lanyards' purchased a year ago, and highly recommend it.

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This is the only image I have on hand of the CMR lanyard. And the opportunity to show off my "Shooter" Arty with original late model TM08. Best Regards!! Joe

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Alf, I couldn't get a private message to send.


Alf..Looks like Priority mail to Malta would be $13. Regular mail would be $8.00 first class. Let me know how you would likeyour lanyard sent.

Pay Pal is fine...

$105+13.00=$118

$105+8.00=$113

PP is magicbelle@earthlink.net

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Ok Jerry I will send you the money by PayPal.
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German documents describe the lanyard with a spring-hook and late Third Reich documents show and describe the P38 lanyard wich was also used with the P08. Bavaria got and used a very special lanyard during the great war.
This one with the leather attatching was used with the byf 42 of Portugal.
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Klaus, Many thanks for this information. German documents describe the lanyard with a spring-hook. While this may be so...many top collections in Europe are full of the leather tab type. G. Machtelinckx of Belgium was kind enough to assist me in the late 90's by traveling accross Europe... dropping in on very important and extensive collections on his way to photograph the German Luger lanyards found in those collections. Almost exclusively the many photo's he provided are of the leather tab type.
I do have a spring type in my collection. These are vastly inferior to the leather tab type with the brass swivel. Cheaply made with unblued steel and usually rusted to hell.
As an aside..I wrote to Reinhard Kornmayer in 1998 and he was kind enough to write up what he knew about Luger lanyards. He had the opposite of your opinion..that Portugese lanyards were of the spring hook type. He was kind enough to send me an example as a gift for which I well be forever grateful. He also sent me his archive of German Soldiers wearing lanyards.
If you have any information of a diffinitave nature that would positively identify the leather tab type lanyard as Portugese I would dearly love to see it. I have researched German Luger Lanyards now for 20 years and have NEVER been able to pin down the Portugese lanyard.
All I have ever heard is second hand rumors of the leather tab type coming back into the US with Portugese Lugers and the lerned opinion of Reinhard..
Lastly...If I were to produce the spring hook lanyards for sale... I could not give them away. They would horribly mar the finish on any Luger one was crazy enough to attach them to.

Klaus, Viele Dank für diese Informationen. Deutsche Dokumente beschreiben die Kordel mit einem Federhaken. Während dies so sein darf. ..many oberste Sammlungen in Europa sind voll von der Lederlasche. G. Machtelinckx von Belgien war gütig genug, mir in des spät 90's durch Reisen von accross Europa zu helfen... schauend bei sehr wichtigen und umfangreichen Sammlungen auf seinem Weg herein, die deutschen Luger Kordeln zu fotografieren, die in den Sammlungen gefunden werden. Fast ausschließlich hat des vieles Fotos er sind von der Lederlasche versorgt. Ich habe eine Feder in meiner Sammlung. Diese sind erheblich minderwertig zur Lederlasche mit dem Messingdrehgelenk. Billig gemacht mit unblued stählern und gewöhnlich gerostet zu Hölle. Als ein beiseite.. ich an Reinhard Kornmayer in 1998 geschrieben habe, und er war gütig genug, nach oben zu schreiben, was er um Luger Kordeln gekannt hat. Er hat das Gegenteil von Ihrer Meinung gehabt.., dass Portugese Kordeln vom Federhaken waren. Er war gütig genug, mir ein Beispiel zu schicken, als ein Geschenk für das ich gut bin für immer dankbar. Er hat auch mir sein Archiv deutscher Soldaten tragend Kordeln geschickt. Wenn Sie irgendeine Informationen von einer diffinitave Natur haben, die positiv die Lederlaschenkordel identifizieren würde, als Portugese ich lieb es sehen möchte. Ich habe Deutsch Luger Kordeln jetzt für 20 Jahre geforscht und habe NIE die Portugese Kordel festlegen können. Alles, das ich je gehört habe, ist Sekundenzeigergerüchte von der Lederlasche zurückkommend in die USA mit Portugese Lugers und der lerned Meinung von Reinhard. Zuletzt. ..if ich sollte herstellen den Federhakenkordeln zum Verkauf... Ich könnte sie nicht weggeben. Sie würden schrecklich das Ende auf irgendeinem Luger einer war verrückt genug beschädigen, sie zu zu befestigen.
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