Can anybody find Prvi Partizan 30 para ?

LogDog1 · 08-08-2018, 01:57 AM

Just bought a commercial 30 cal. Does not eject the brand of 30 para I got at a specialty store ( not Fiocci ). I hear this is common and Prvi is the best brand for 30 para but I cannot find it for sale anywhere. Previous owner said he used Prvi since others would not feed. I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work

Bill_in_VA · 08-08-2018, 06:58 AM

Aim Surplus is my go-to for PP .30 Luger. Bear in mind it’s not a nationally popular cartridge so it’s not always available, but it is in stock often enough. Keep checking back with them.
For what it’s worth, you can mail order ammunition directly. You don’t need an FFL to do it for you (and add his mark-up.)

HerrKaiser · 08-08-2018, 07:29 AM

I got Fiocchi from Lucky Gunner for my .30 Luger and it worked just fine, they delivered to my doorstep as well.

DonVoigt · 08-08-2018, 08:16 AM

" I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work"

You won't know until you try it- probably a 50% chance Fiocchi will work in your particular luger.
PPU will be available next time they make a production run.

HerrKaiser · 08-08-2018, 10:06 AM

Side note, how is Prvi partizan pronounced? Like “privvy”, “Pervy” or just P-R-V-I...?

Edward Tinker · 08-08-2018, 10:52 AM

well, it would never occur to me to say 'pervy'

I just say Privvy - but PPU is easier. But then you could watch their video (if they had any words ) https://www.prvipartizan.com/

PPU seemed to function in my carbine the best, so went looking a couple months ago. None around, however, now the large pawn shop in Deer park has a case of it, so bought four boxes.

Edward Tinker · 08-08-2018, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LogDog1

....... I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work

you don't have a state listed, so you must be wrong, as no state except California requires ammo to go through an FFL

LogDog1 · 08-08-2018, 11:13 AM

yes i live in Ca . Yeah I know , the people's republic of. As long as PPU makes it sometimes i will be ready for the next batch. Just wanted assurance they did not stop making it. Nobody sells it around here and Krausewerk has 30 for a premium price but it's a long drive, the stuff is a brand i've never heard of and is probably old, and it did not cycle to boot.
I,m pretty far coastal so shipping to a neighboring state is not practical.Got a great deal just after the law changed

DonVoigt · 08-08-2018, 11:51 AM

It would be helpful to the rest of us if you would just say what the other "brand" is.

Edward Tinker · 08-08-2018, 04:38 PM

hah hah - subtle hint that it helps us to know your state. nobody but mods can see your last name, unless its in the title like mine

anyway, ensure everything is very smooth on your 30 luger, and if the mainspring is strong enough / too strong. Again, not sure if you have a 1900 or 1908 type

Lugers are great shooters, but can be finicky, once you find a round that works, I stick with it, although I am not a huge shooter....

ithacaartist · 08-08-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

you don't have a state listed, so you must be wrong, as no state except California requires ammo to go through an FFL

Under the S.A.F.E. Act, online sales to New Yorkers are still legal, but the buyer must go through a licensed dealer in the state and pick up the ammunition in person. A background check for all ammo sales was originally part of the Act, but has never been implemented.

I've received ammo from auctions that was just stuck into a small Flat Rate box and mailed directly, which breaks USPS rules as well as the SAFE Act. I don't complain about it, though...

LogDog1 · 08-08-2018, 08:36 PM

I have to get the box out of the garage and i am at work . I seem to remember " stainless or something like that i never heard of . Makes me think it was reloads but they were like $.80 @ which is not reload price. Came in a very plain cardboard box. Seller said that PPU worked best when he shot it and Fiocci was not good. I could take it to Krausewerk to have them look it over but i would pay less for a thousand rounds of PPU and I would still have the ammo if it did not solve the problem. I do have a couple of 9mm ones and tried all of their mags but no help.

LogDog1 · 08-08-2018, 08:37 PM

Krausewerk said it was a standard commercial 1920s model if that helps

LogDog1 · 08-08-2018, 08:40 PM

Aim and everywhere is out of PPU

DonVoigt · 08-08-2018, 09:10 PM

There is some at my LGS, but you don't want to order it anyway- due to shipping charges/costs at FFL on your end- if I read your post correctly.
They won't ship to CA anyway- so I guess you have to wait till PPU is re-stocked in CA.

LogDog1 · 08-09-2018, 01:47 AM

or restocked anywhere

CRob · 08-09-2018, 05:33 AM

The last gun show I went to one table had three boxes and I bought all three. So I would watch the shows if they have shows in CA.

LogDog1 · 08-10-2018, 11:15 AM

Yes they do have gun shows but sucks to spend $20 to get ammo only . The brand I was shooting and did not cycle was " Metallic Cartridge Specialties" which comes in a plain white box and lists no address. Likely reloaded brass.Wish I could post a pic but my 18 year old is off to college.

LogDog1 · 08-10-2018, 11:18 AM

Paid about .80 per for it too. bought only 100 though so not in too deep

DonVoigt · 08-10-2018, 03:57 PM

$40 a box- I'd return the full box. Ammo is supposed to work.

08-08-2018, 01:57 AM	#1
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can anybody find Prvi Partizan 30 para ? Just bought a commercial 30 cal. Does not eject the brand of 30 para I got at a specialty store ( not Fiocci ). I hear this is common and Prvi is the best brand for 30 para but I cannot find it for sale anywhere. Previous owner said he used Prvi since others would not feed. I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work

08-08-2018, 06:58 AM	#2
Bill_in_VA User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 343 Thanks: 731 Thanked 470 Times in 178 Posts	Aim Surplus is my go-to for PP .30 Luger. Bear in mind it’s not a nationally popular cartridge so it’s not always available, but it is in stock often enough. Keep checking back with them. For what it’s worth, you can mail order ammunition directly. You don’t need an FFL to do it for you (and add his mark-up.) __________________ John 8:32 reive (riːv) vb (Military) (intr) dialect Scot and Northern English to go on a plundering raid [variant of reave] ˈreiver n e.g., " Some view the Border Reivers as loveable rogues."

08-08-2018, 07:29 AM	#3
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 800 Thanks: 750 Thanked 793 Times in 376 Posts	I got Fiocchi from Lucky Gunner for my .30 Luger and it worked just fine, they delivered to my doorstep as well. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

08-08-2018, 08:16 AM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	" I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work" You won't know until you try it- probably a 50% chance Fiocchi will work in your particular luger. PPU will be available next time they make a production run. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-08-2018, 10:06 AM	#5
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 800 Thanks: 750 Thanked 793 Times in 376 Posts	Side note, how is Prvi partizan pronounced? Like “privvy”, “Pervy” or just P-R-V-I...? __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

08-08-2018, 10:52 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	well, it would never occur to me to say 'pervy' I just say Privvy - but PPU is easier. But then you could watch their video (if they had any words ) https://www.prvipartizan.com/ PPU seemed to function in my carbine the best, so went looking a couple months ago. None around, however, now the large pawn shop in Deer park has a case of it, so bought four boxes.

08-08-2018, 11:13 AM	#8
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes i live in Ca . Yeah I know , the people's republic of. As long as PPU makes it sometimes i will be ready for the next batch. Just wanted assurance they did not stop making it. Nobody sells it around here and Krausewerk has 30 for a premium price but it's a long drive, the stuff is a brand i've never heard of and is probably old, and it did not cycle to boot. I,m pretty far coastal so shipping to a neighboring state is not practical.Got a great deal just after the law changed

08-08-2018, 11:51 AM	#9
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	It would be helpful to the rest of us if you would just say what the other "brand" is. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-08-2018, 04:38 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	hah hah - subtle hint that it helps us to know your state. nobody but mods can see your last name, unless its in the title like mine anyway, ensure everything is very smooth on your 30 luger, and if the mainspring is strong enough / too strong. Again, not sure if you have a 1900 or 1908 type Lugers are great shooters, but can be finicky, once you find a round that works, I stick with it, although I am not a huge shooter.... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-08-2018, 08:36 PM	#12
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have to get the box out of the garage and i am at work . I seem to remember " stainless or something like that i never heard of . Makes me think it was reloads but they were like $.80 @ which is not reload price. Came in a very plain cardboard box. Seller said that PPU worked best when he shot it and Fiocci was not good. I could take it to Krausewerk to have them look it over but i would pay less for a thousand rounds of PPU and I would still have the ammo if it did not solve the problem. I do have a couple of 9mm ones and tried all of their mags but no help.

08-08-2018, 08:37 PM	#13
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Krausewerk said it was a standard commercial 1920s model if that helps

08-08-2018, 08:40 PM	#14
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Aim and everywhere is out of PPU

08-08-2018, 09:10 PM	#15
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	There is some at my LGS, but you don't want to order it anyway- due to shipping charges/costs at FFL on your end- if I read your post correctly. They won't ship to CA anyway- so I guess you have to wait till PPU is re-stocked in CA. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-09-2018, 01:47 AM	#16
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	or restocked anywhere

08-09-2018, 05:33 AM	#17
CRob User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 30 Thanks: 135 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts	The last gun show I went to one table had three boxes and I bought all three. So I would watch the shows if they have shows in CA.

08-10-2018, 11:15 AM	#18
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes they do have gun shows but sucks to spend $20 to get ammo only . The brand I was shooting and did not cycle was " Metallic Cartridge Specialties" which comes in a plain white box and lists no address. Likely reloaded brass.Wish I could post a pic but my 18 year old is off to college.

08-10-2018, 11:18 AM	#19
LogDog1 User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Paid about .80 per for it too. bought only 100 though so not in too deep

08-10-2018, 03:57 PM	#20
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	$40 a box- I'd return the full box. Ammo is supposed to work. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie