1923 Russian

Tony S. · 06-18-2004, 01:29 PM

Is there such a thing as 1923 Russian? If so, how are the serial numbers place, commercial or military style? Would they have a small letter after the number? What is the serial range? Are there other identifying features other than the backward Crown/N? 9mm or 7.65?
Thanks, Tony

Thor · 06-18-2004, 07:01 PM

Tony, Harry Jones shows a model like that on page 178 and 179 of Luger Variations. It looks much like a 1920 or 1923 Commercial but where the crown N would be on the front of the left receiver is a Crown over a BACKWARDS looking N, must be a Cyrillic letter. The slant of the N is not from top left down to bottom right but from top right down to bottom left. Barrel length is 3 & 5/8" in caliber 30 Luger, SN 1 digit without small letter, he only says one is documented so the authenticity is a bit dubious IMO. DWM toggle marking, no chamber marking. The picture shown almost looks like the sear bar is either in the white or strawed? Also this backwards N under a crown is also shown in CONSTANZOs proof book (page 184) as a 1923 DWM Russian proof on left receiver reworked by DWM and sold to Russian on a limited contract basis in both 30 and 9mm and are EXTREMELY RARE, WATCH FOR FAKES, only 4 observed.

06-18-2004, 01:29 PM	#1
Tony S. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 173 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1923 Russian Is there such a thing as 1923 Russian? If so, how are the serial numbers place, commercial or military style? Would they have a small letter after the number? What is the serial range? Are there other identifying features other than the backward Crown/N? 9mm or 7.65? Thanks, Tony

06-18-2004, 07:01 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Tony, Harry Jones shows a model like that on page 178 and 179 of Luger Variations. It looks much like a 1920 or 1923 Commercial but where the crown N would be on the front of the left receiver is a Crown over a BACKWARDS looking N, must be a Cyrillic letter. The slant of the N is not from top left down to bottom right but from top right down to bottom left. Barrel length is 3 & 5/8" in caliber 30 Luger, SN 1 digit without small letter, he only says one is documented so the authenticity is a bit dubious IMO. DWM toggle marking, no chamber marking. The picture shown almost looks like the sear bar is either in the white or strawed? Also this backwards N under a crown is also shown in CONSTANZOs proof book (page 184) as a 1923 DWM Russian proof on left receiver reworked by DWM and sold to Russian on a limited contract basis in both 30 and 9mm and are EXTREMELY RARE, WATCH FOR FAKES, only 4 observed. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."