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Unread 02-27-2017, 02:56 PM   #41
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Magazine i tested with , was made by Mike and is made from soft metal,
i am planing to usa 1095 spring steel and we are in the process of testing dies out, ordered a press for the stamping as a hand/vise pressing did not provided needed pressure..

Played with a 20 ton shop press at a friends garage, now waiting for 50 toner to arrive.

We are working with soft dies for the first couple of bends, as soon as the mag is together, we plan to harden the A2 steel and keep on pressing.

I am sure magazine will present some challenges, but i am also sure it will not be as hard and long as a frame cutting was.

We already worked out spring situation for a magazine, and cutting aluminum followers now.

Press delivery is slowing us down a bit.
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Grip safety pinch will be worked out as well, this gun is a first prototype assembled, and some small cleanup and missing futures are been worked on,
Overall a positive response for the first prototype is a good sign for us.
Keep positing your ideas.., we are listening.

a SAFE with Arrow marking on the frame, can be removed for people that do not like ENGLISH .

I for one prefer a clear direction that tells me safe is that way. where is safety operation was always confusing on a Luger for me. I duplicated a Dutch contract Idea in English...
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First prototype is not meant to be sold and as such has not been numbered ... I assure you all guns we plan to sell will have numbers on them as well as manufactures markings as required by ATF.

Any and all ideas about placement of the markings is up for a debate at this point.
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As far as LMI logo that looks like a DWM logo, that was an idea to have a name of the company that is making the gun and also make it look close to original.

I have heard mostly positive comments on the logo, I am sure a 100% positive response is not possible on anything, everyone is different and has there own ideas.

We will listen to your ideas and try to accommodate the majority... and keep the markings consistent on all guns.

One voice that does not like LMI logo vs 50 that do is a no brainier for me right now...
But keep posting , it may change
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Unread 02-27-2017, 03:09 PM   #45
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As far as testing, we plan to ship a prototype gun around to a first batch buyers to test the gun and to report on it.. so testing for reliability will be done for sure , before any guns start shipping out.

And as of right now , we plan to test every gun in a white after assembly before finish is applied , to make sure trouble free operation for our clients,.
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I handled the .45 at SOS quite a bit, and I liked it. My one comment is, the top of the grip safety "bit" the web of my palm between my thumb and forefinger, when depressed.
I haven't seen or handled Eugene's .45 reproduction, but IIRC it is made from Mike Krause's reverse-engineered 'blueprints' [$2,500 ] taken from an actual 1907 Trials .45, so the faults (if accurately copied) are inherent in the design.

I just noticed in the magazine thread that the .45 has no stock lug. While I am sure that is an accurate representation, it saddens me. Even though I own an M1900AE, I associate Lugers with stock lugs.

And since Eugene is soliciting opinions, I think the safety markings of F and S as used on the P38 and other weapons is clearer and more intuitive than the arrow and 'safe' marking.

My $.02 as usual.
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May be you right on S and F marks,
But that was never used on lugers,
We're as arrow was in Dutch contract.
At least that's what I keep telling myself.
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May be you right on S and F marks,
But that was never used on lugers,
We're as arrow was in Dutch contract.
At least that's what I keep telling myself.
Is that what is on the trials .45 Luger??? If so, then I retract my opinion...Authenticity is more important, I would think...

I'm looking at the Norton .45 in TBLAP and it doesn't have any safety markings, just the two dimples...
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Speaking of "SAFE" on a 1906 grip safety Luger, shouldn't the arrow point upward instead of downward? The picture of the Aberman gun posted above by Richard seems to indicate a "Safe" is the upper position.

Or was the .45 Luger at the Trials an "altered" safety design? I feel embarrassed for not asking this when I had the gun in hand.
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What/where is site for Norton 45 TBLAP
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What/where is site for Norton 45 TBLAP
The discussion starts on page 1627 in the red set.
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The cd is worth every $, and much lighter than the books; though I do like to hold the books in my hands!
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The cd is worth every $, and much lighter than the books; though I do like to hold the books in my hands!
Don, the pics/drawings in the DVD [snip!] are much higher resolution than the book pics...2008 x 3035 pixels is pretty common...
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Don, the pics/drawings in the DVD [snip!] are much higher resolution than the book pics...2008 x 3035 pixels is pretty common...
Well, I guess the book is printed from the cd, but at lower resolution?

I just find it comforting to hold the book;
I'm an analog guy at heart.
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Got that book, and read all 45 info i can find,

My thinking was, as we are making the gun that people will be using,

Hopefully not just sit on the shelves in safes...

I wanted to make changes that were made for the 1906 Altered safety,

and have the gun in safe when pushed in the holster.

Plus the safety lever is away from the arm in that variation.

In the early safety type it bites in the arm a bit.
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Eugene, thanks for the explanation.
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I like the idea of the 'Dutch arrow' in the safety area. If I had the cash lying around, I'd order one with 'RUST' on it
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Just got back from dropping off the 45 Luger I took to Louisville to show folks.

I saw his baby luger 45 acp and it is very nice, unlike a baby 9mm (which feels too small in my hand), the 45 baby fit just like a larger luger in my hand, very nice.

He had a full crew working on things, saw at least 4 guys there all chomping away at metal and stuff, no idea what they were working on. He re-did the rear toggle for looks and functioning, it still looks the same but you can see how the parts are slightly different on the one I brought to the show and the 'new' piece.

We discussed the placement of markings, city, caliber, the up/down for safety, etc. I would imagine he could put whatever you wanted on the area, but I said outloud, well, its extra time and time is money. He agreed that technically they could change anything, but that would mean new parts (extractor) or different milling / engraving or whatever does the SAFE...


He wasn't done with my 45 acp / gap uppers that he will fix up for me - maybe do a Wyatt conversion or something, but thats down the road for me to mess with. Meanwhile, gather pennies together for a Eugene 45 ACP Luger
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Ed,

I have wanted a Baby for quite some time so ordered one of Eugenes 45s.

Another member here mentioned selling some of his motorcycles where I wanted to add to my stable of 4. I could have bought a nice used Harley V Rod for the price of the new baby.

looking forward to the addition to my Luger collection
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Less likelyhood of crashing into a guardrail with a baby .45 though.
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