Bob Simpson's 1908 Navy

cirelaw · 05-15-2013, 08:21 PM

I noticed his DWM Navy has "GERMANY" on its side. My 1908 Navy has no such marking. Is there a reason for this difference? ~~~ Eric

alanint · 05-15-2013, 09:04 PM

Yes, one was decommisioned military navy destined for postwar export or an actual civilian Navy and yours is not.

Ben M. · 05-17-2013, 10:04 AM

they also have what they call a fake 1916 navy for sale. it has the germany stamping in the recessed area above the thumb safety stick.

skeeter4206 · 06-02-2013, 01:07 AM

I have been reading up on the 1908 Navy Lugers. In the book "Lugers at Random" from Charles Kenyon, for the 1908 Navy Commercial. These have a serail number range from 44000 to 50000. Only an estimated 1,000 to 1,500 estimated. These have had none that bare the "Germany" import stamp.

As for the 1908 Navy manufactured for the german navy, they have a 1 to 5 digit SN with or without the letters "a" or "b". An estimated 40,000 of these lugers were manufactured. The book doesnt mention these having the import stamp "Germany" on them.

My curiosity is the commercial SN range 44,000 to 50,000. Would a five digit SN be stamped on the front of the main frame? Also, if the 1908 Navy's that were made for the german navy. Were some of them initially stamped with the "Germany" import stamp from the factory if intended foe export. Or was the gun initially used by the navy then exported after the war. Just how did the "Germany" stamp come to be on the 1908 navy if they were manufactured for use by the german navy and not to be commercial.

Note that this book was written in 1969 and I am sure some facts have come about with this old guns. So, I am just quoting from the book. Please correct me if some of these facts have changed since then.

sheepherder · 06-02-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Bob Simpson's 1908 Navy

I noticed his DWM Navy has "GERMANY" on its side. My 1908 Navy has no such marking. Is there a reason for this difference? ~~~ Eric

Eric, do you have a link to his Navy Luger???

Also, who is Bob Simpson??? Is that Brad's son???

cirelaw · 06-02-2013, 12:01 PM

I'm sorry I haven't perfected the attachment thing! Just pull up navy lugers on his site 'Simpson Ltd' Its the only commercial navy luger! ~~~Eric

cirelaw · 06-02-2013, 01:08 PM

A commercial navy in Germany ?????

sheepherder · 06-05-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Bob Simpson's 1908 Navy

I noticed his DWM Navy has "GERMANY" on its side. My 1908 Navy has no such marking. Is there a reason for this difference? ~~~ Eric

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Originally Posted by postino

Eric, do you have a link to his Navy Luger???

Also, who is Bob Simpson??? Is that Brad's son???

My apologies to Eric; I had it backwards...Bob is the father; Brad is the son...

I had bought a pistol from Floyd Gray [Simpson salesman; no relation] some time back, and had gotten the Simpsons mixed up...

05-15-2013, 08:21 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Bob Simpson's 1908 Navy I noticed his DWM Navy has "GERMANY" on its side. My 1908 Navy has no such marking. Is there a reason for this difference? ~~~ Eric

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Yes, one was decommisioned military navy destined for postwar export or an actual civilian Navy and yours is not.

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Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 474 Thanks: 82 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	they also have what they call a fake 1916 navy for sale. it has the germany stamping in the recessed area above the thumb safety stick.

06-02-2013, 01:07 AM	#4
skeeter4206 User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 448 Thanks: 52 Thanked 88 Times in 49 Posts	I have been reading up on the 1908 Navy Lugers. In the book "Lugers at Random" from Charles Kenyon, for the 1908 Navy Commercial. These have a serail number range from 44000 to 50000. Only an estimated 1,000 to 1,500 estimated. These have had none that bare the "Germany" import stamp. As for the 1908 Navy manufactured for the german navy, they have a 1 to 5 digit SN with or without the letters "a" or "b". An estimated 40,000 of these lugers were manufactured. The book doesnt mention these having the import stamp "Germany" on them. My curiosity is the commercial SN range 44,000 to 50,000. Would a five digit SN be stamped on the front of the main frame? Also, if the 1908 Navy's that were made for the german navy. Were some of them initially stamped with the "Germany" import stamp from the factory if intended foe export. Or was the gun initially used by the navy then exported after the war. Just how did the "Germany" stamp come to be on the 1908 navy if they were manufactured for use by the german navy and not to be commercial. Note that this book was written in 1969 and I am sure some facts have come about with this old guns. So, I am just quoting from the book. Please correct me if some of these facts have changed since then.

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I'm sorry I haven't perfected the attachment thing! Just pull up navy lugers on his site 'Simpson Ltd' Its the only commercial navy luger! ~~~Eric

06-02-2013, 01:08 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A commercial navy in Germany ?????