Question about shooting a Luger

maxmanta · 03-05-2005, 03:38 AM

Not to sound like a dumbass, but how is the proper way to close the toggle on a Luger? I'm assuming that it is to pull up & back and let it go.

tudorbug · 03-05-2005, 07:57 AM

If the luger is working correctly, the toggle will snap shut when you pull it back and release it. However, if the pistol has an empty magazine in it, the toggle will remain in the open position. You must then hold the toggle back and remove the magazine in order to close the action.

Hope this is small help.

David

Luke · 03-05-2005, 08:20 AM

On the assumption that you are checking out the mechanism and not attempting to fire the gun:

Remember that you cannot pull the toggle back unless the safety lever is in the "FIRING" position. In the "SAFE" or "GESICHERT" position the safety bar blocks the outward movement of the sear bar thereby preventing the rearward motion of the toggle system.

1. Whether loaded or unloaded, remove the magazine.
2. INSURE THERE IS *NOT* A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER.
3. Pull the toggle all the way back and, without releasing, allow it to move forward slowly. It will stop about 1/4 inch from the closed position.
4. While still holding the toggle securely pull the trigger, and the toggle will continue forward to the fully closed position. This prevents accidental dry firing which is not good for the gun.
5. The toggle is now closed, and the firing mechanism is NOT cocked.

I'm sure you already knew most of this, but in the interest of thoroughness and safety I tried not to leave out any steps.

Hope this helps.

Firefighter51 · 03-05-2005, 03:57 PM

Hey thanks for the tip, Luke. I did not know the trick about pulling the trigger as you held the toggle to uncock the gun.

G.W. Gill · 03-06-2005, 12:27 AM

Luke, Please don't try this with a round in the chamber. I tried to get that extra round out of my Luger. I can be done. It is like playing blackjack. I had a hole in my hardwood floor. I was a Fireman. And I know Firemen. Stop that right now! ... gwgillshat@aol.com... Retired Firefighter

Luke · 03-06-2005, 03:13 AM

Hi G.W.

Not sure I understand your comments.

My 2nd statement (in all caps) addresses exactly that point.

Quote: "2. INSURE THERE IS *NOT* A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER."

Regards,
Luke

maxmanta · 03-06-2005, 04:00 PM

Thank you all. Especially for the way to uncock the firing pin w/o dry-firing the gun.

G.W. Gill · 03-06-2005, 11:48 PM

Hi Luke, Sometimes Firemen can be Meatheads ( obviously I am or can be one) we push the envelope at the mere sugestion. Just trying to save a floor or two. On the upside, we can have common sense. It's that trying to get something extra out of it... Your explanation was exact and perfect. And the direction of my post was to Maxmanta, not you Luke. I was so concerned about those floors I didn't adress properly.

Luke · 03-07-2005, 05:52 AM

Hey G.W.

I've had my share. One of our kitchen cabinet doors has a 22 caliber indentation in it . . . . result of my first experience with a CO2 pistol. Thankfully my wife was out of town. When she finally noticed the spot, I tried to look innocent and puzzled; but wives are too smart for that act.

Luke

saxman · 03-07-2005, 02:16 PM

maxmanta; just in case you are loading the pistol to fire, you do exactly as you said. Pull the toggle up and back all the way, then release to let it snap forward. It's the same with all auto loaders; always let the slide/toggle/bolt fly when loading, but close gently at other times.

03-05-2005, 03:38 AM	#1
maxmanta User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: I'm in HELL! That's where I'm at! Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question about shooting a Luger Not to sound like a dumbass, but how is the proper way to close the toggle on a Luger? I'm assuming that it is to pull up & back and let it go.

03-05-2005, 08:20 AM	#3
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	On the assumption that you are checking out the mechanism and not attempting to fire the gun: Remember that you cannot pull the toggle back unless the safety lever is in the "FIRING" position. In the "SAFE" or "GESICHERT" position the safety bar blocks the outward movement of the sear bar thereby preventing the rearward motion of the toggle system. 1. Whether loaded or unloaded, remove the magazine. 2. INSURE THERE IS NOT A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER. 3. Pull the toggle all the way back and, without releasing, allow it to move forward slowly. It will stop about 1/4 inch from the closed position. 4. While still holding the toggle securely pull the trigger, and the toggle will continue forward to the fully closed position. This prevents accidental dry firing which is not good for the gun. 5. The toggle is now closed, and the firing mechanism is NOT cocked. I'm sure you already knew most of this, but in the interest of thoroughness and safety I tried not to leave out any steps. Hope this helps. __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

03-06-2005, 03:13 AM	#6
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Hi G.W. Not sure I understand your comments. My 2nd statement (in all caps) addresses exactly that point. Quote: *"2. INSURE THERE IS NOT* A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER."** Regards, Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

03-07-2005, 05:52 AM	#9
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Hey G.W. I've had my share. One of our kitchen cabinet doors has a 22 caliber indentation in it . . . . result of my first experience with a CO2 pistol. Thankfully my wife was out of town. When she finally noticed the spot, I tried to look innocent and puzzled; but wives are too smart for that act. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

03-07-2005, 02:16 PM	#10
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	maxmanta; just in case you are loading the pistol to fire, you do exactly as you said. Pull the toggle up and back all the way, then release to let it snap forward. It's the same with all auto loaders; always let the slide/toggle/bolt fly when loading, but close gently at other times. __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.

03-05-2005, 07:57 AM	#2
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	If the luger is working correctly, the toggle will snap shut when you pull it back and release it. However, if the pistol has an empty magazine in it, the toggle will remain in the open position. You must then hold the toggle back and remove the magazine in order to close the action. Hope this is small help. David

03-05-2005, 03:57 PM	#4
Firefighter51 User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey thanks for the tip, Luke. I did not know the trick about pulling the trigger as you held the toggle to uncock the gun.

03-06-2005, 12:27 AM	#5
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luke, Please don't try this with a round in the chamber. I tried to get that extra round out of my Luger. I can be done. It is like playing blackjack. I had a hole in my hardwood floor. I was a Fireman. And I know Firemen. Stop that right now! ... gwgillshat@aol.com... Retired Firefighter

03-06-2005, 04:00 PM	#7
maxmanta User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: I'm in HELL! That's where I'm at! Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you all. Especially for the way to uncock the firing pin w/o dry-firing the gun.

03-06-2005, 11:48 PM	#8
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Luke, Sometimes Firemen can be Meatheads ( obviously I am or can be one) we push the envelope at the mere sugestion. Just trying to save a floor or two. On the upside, we can have common sense. It's that trying to get something extra out of it... Your explanation was exact and perfect. And the direction of my post was to Maxmanta, not you Luke. I was so concerned about those floors I didn't adress properly.