Grips/H. Clark

01-26-2002, 05:43 PM

Mr. Clark, got the grips today, they are beautiful on the gun. Why would have someone sanded them down anyway? Great job. Thanks

RGG

Thor · 01-26-2002, 08:12 PM

A lot of times Hugh will take off the COARSE checking on some of the SARCO/Marstar repro grips, it is 18 lines per inch and the checkering on original Luger grips was 20 lines per inch I believe. I sent some of those to Hugh and they came back with the original checkering which was nicer to the eye and hand IMO. The COARSE checkering as they came from SARCO/Marstar felt like I was hold a cheese grater! When they came back from the Magician Hugh, they were PERFECT! ~Thor~~

Hugh · 01-26-2002, 11:14 PM

RGR; Who knows what thoughts lurk in the minds of men? NOT EVEN THE SHADOW! Maybe someone thought they felt better smooth? Anyway, I'm happy that you are pleased with them.

01-27-2002, 02:51 AM

I counted the lines per inch on a bunch of luger grips of all ages (pre-1945) in the mid-1990s and was surprised to find 17.5-18.5 lpi on a lot of them. The WW1 era grips are a bit finer. I should recount the lines. Did I err in measuring? What is the convention for counting the seration's beginning point?

Dave

Thor · 01-27-2002, 07:50 AM

Dave, I could be wrong about the exact count, but I know the repros were much coarser. I will defer the actual answer of the number to Hugh, who is the grip meister. I do know that the pair he changed from me went from CHEESE GRATER ROUGH to perfect orginal checkering. These were the coco bollo (or coca cola as the joke goes) wood. The wood is very pretty actually and pretty nice for checking. He never even misses one diamond on the checkering. The man is amazing! ~Thor~

Hugh · 01-27-2002, 11:22 PM

What you have to remember is that the Germans were not using "inches", but the metric system. They were also apparently using electric checkering machines; and the checkering on original grips is usually much coarser toward the edges than in the middle of the grip.

When I started "freshening" original grips, I found that the 18 LPI tool would begin to overrun the diamonds after about 3 or 4 lines. When I switched to the 20 LPI tool, I did not have this problem. Occasionally I have run into a pair of 18 LPI grips; these are usually on WWI guns. I have had several people contact me about "counting the lines" and coming up with 16 LPI and other spacing. All I can say is that I have checked a lot of grips with a Brownells "Checkerchex" and the originals come closer to 20 LPI than any of the others, except for the afore mentioned few.

After writing the above; I realized that I had the answer right here in my computer!

I just checked my set of Luger blueprints and found the following: Diamond width: 1.3cm; this is equilavent to 19.23 LPI. Intersecting angle of lines that form the diamond is 38 degrees.

01-26-2002, 05:43 PM	#1
R. Grady/Roadkill Guest Posts: n/a	Grips/H. Clark Mr. Clark, got the grips today, they are beautiful on the gun. Why would have someone sanded them down anyway? Great job. Thanks RGG

01-26-2002, 08:12 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Grips/H. Clark A lot of times Hugh will take off the COARSE checking on some of the SARCO/Marstar repro grips, it is 18 lines per inch and the checkering on original Luger grips was 20 lines per inch I believe. I sent some of those to Hugh and they came back with the original checkering which was nicer to the eye and hand IMO. The COARSE checkering as they came from SARCO/Marstar felt like I was hold a cheese grater! When they came back from the Magician Hugh, they were PERFECT! ~Thor~~

01-26-2002, 11:14 PM	#3
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Grips/H. Clark RGR; Who knows what thoughts lurk in the minds of men? NOT EVEN THE SHADOW! Maybe someone thought they felt better smooth? Anyway, I'm happy that you are pleased with them.

01-27-2002, 02:51 AM	#4
mlm Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Grips/H. Clark I counted the lines per inch on a bunch of luger grips of all ages (pre-1945) in the mid-1990s and was surprised to find 17.5-18.5 lpi on a lot of them. The WW1 era grips are a bit finer. I should recount the lines. Did I err in measuring? What is the convention for counting the seration's beginning point? Dave

01-27-2002, 07:50 AM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Grips/H. Clark Dave, I could be wrong about the exact count, but I know the repros were much coarser. I will defer the actual answer of the number to Hugh, who is the grip meister. I do know that the pair he changed from me went from CHEESE GRATER ROUGH to perfect orginal checkering. These were the coco bollo (or coca cola as the joke goes) wood. The wood is very pretty actually and pretty nice for checking. He never even misses one diamond on the checkering. The man is amazing! ~Thor~

01-27-2002, 11:22 PM	#6
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Grip checkering What you have to remember is that the Germans were not using "inches", but the metric system. They were also apparently using electric checkering machines; and the checkering on original grips is usually much coarser toward the edges than in the middle of the grip. When I started "freshening" original grips, I found that the 18 LPI tool would begin to overrun the diamonds after about 3 or 4 lines. When I switched to the 20 LPI tool, I did not have this problem. Occasionally I have run into a pair of 18 LPI grips; these are usually on WWI guns. I have had several people contact me about "counting the lines" and coming up with 16 LPI and other spacing. All I can say is that I have checked a lot of grips with a Brownells "Checkerchex" and the originals come closer to 20 LPI than any of the others, except for the afore mentioned few. After writing the above; I realized that I had the answer right here in my computer! I just checked my set of Luger blueprints and found the following: Diamond width: 1.3cm; this is equilavent to 19.23 LPI. Intersecting angle of lines that form the diamond is 38 degrees.