Eternally grateful for the old board!

Jimbo · 10-15-2002, 11:52 PM

John D,

I am SO glad you saved the encyclopeadic information from the old board. It is great to search on "s42" or "k-date" or "krighoff" and just watch this endless flood of invaluable info emerge. There is so much knowledge buried on the old board it would take weeks and weeks to mine it all. Fortunately, I have the time. My goal is to go through every post about Mauser Lugers and write down everything I can, for future study.

Thanks again for saving it!

Jimbo

(If you are new to Lugers or to this forum, don't neglect the old board. It is a wealth of info that would have taken a lifetime to learn otherwise.)

Jimbo · 10-16-2002, 12:29 AM

Holy cow! there is such good info here. I just stumbled on a thread by Pete Ebbink asking for a checklist of thing to check after purchasing a luger.

Big Norm said, "Yah, I use a restorer who has shown me a few details that at first glance, I never noticed. Like have you ever noticed that on the receivers rear rabbit ear rails, on the right side the grind marks go vertical. The left side goes horizontal."

Now here I am holding my byf41 and SURE ENOUGH, the raised portion on the right rear of the frame has abrasions straight up and down, while the left side has the abrasions horizontally, parallel to the bore axis.

(Then my mind wanders and I begin to ponder if Thor maintains this pattern in his restorations...)

Man, the things you learn from the arcane minutia on the old forum!

Thor · 10-16-2002, 08:35 AM

Sometimes I do, sometimes, I do a little more polish NOT to show marks in this area. Of course, he is right about the direction. Of course, when you pull the magazine on Lugers I have worked on, you will see those three little red marks inside the mag well, and then the direction doesnt seem to be so important as you know the gun has been restored.

John Sabato · 10-16-2002, 11:22 AM

You are right Jimbo... saving that data was paramount when this new board was built... The old board was part of our growing pains, but at least the data was saved... It was more than a year of discussion. It is a real shame that the effort to convert the database to this format would be a monumental task... at least the data is there...

It makes me cringe to think of how much Luger data WAS lost on the original Lugerforum discussion board that was hosted in Taiwan back in 1998... Once the screen was full, the old posts just vanished forever... That fact, and a very slow server response was the driving force in moving the board to the U.S. and changing the discussion format to one that archived all posts and was searchable... the only thing missing is some of the accompanying photos...

Thanks John D. for providing such a home for such a wealth of information.

Jimbo · 10-16-2002, 08:07 PM

Hi John S.,

The old format is a tiny price to pay for keeping all of that invaluable knowledge, otherwise lost. Some nuggets lost from the Taiwan site will never be recovered. But I am so grateful for all of the discussions saved on the old board. I am really learning. (And re-learning. Great refresher information there!)

THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jimbo · 10-16-2002, 08:11 PM

Hi Ted,

My compliments to you that you could remember that detail. I find it pretty arcane but being able to remember such things as right-side-vertical and left-side-horizontal is probably part of what makes your work so good. It sure is pretty. I keep looking for something in ***BAD*** enough shape to send to you but they seem very hard to find. I wouldn't want to re-blue anything with more than say 70% original finish.

A funny evolution is ocurring within me, though. As I become more the collector and read more about the fascinating Luger variations, the level of finish I consider acceptable keeps going down. I may continue to evolve to where I find Lugers in the white too precious not to re-blue.

Interesting evolution, huh?

I still admire those who actually shoot their Lugers. After all, that is what they were made for!

Wombat · 10-17-2002, 01:07 AM

Yeah, I remember the old days of the funky Taiwan server! Even though I don't post much anymore, I still lurk around a bit.

---Wombat

Ron Wood · 10-17-2002, 01:58 AM

Hey Wombat! Good to hear from you again. Wondered were you wandered off to.

John Sabato · 10-17-2002, 01:49 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Wombat:
<strong>Yeah, I remember the old days of the funky Taiwan server! Even though I don't post much anymore, I still lurk around a bit.

---Wombat</strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't post much anymore? This is your 1st since we changed formats... where the heck have you been Wombat? I saw your registration come through but wondered if you lost your way...I thought you might have sold your Luger collection to buy more air guns...

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Pete Ebbink · 10-18-2002, 07:26 PM

Jimbo,

Another treasure of the old Forum threads are the postings of a bunch of experts that used to pass on great info., but for various reasons (probably the bickering...) just tuned out...

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Jimbo · 10-18-2002, 08:13 PM

A sad loss, Pete. But some are still here and I deeply appreciate their invaluable knowledge. I just want to learn and to know about these fascinating guns.

In the words of Chief Moose of Maryland, I hope the "disgrumbled" experts at least listen in once in a while and rest easy that some of us do this out of a passion and not for any quest for profit.

Edward Tinker · 10-18-2002, 08:20 PM

10-15-2002, 11:52 PM	#1
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Eternally grateful for the old board! John D, I am SO glad you saved the encyclopeadic information from the old board. It is great to search on "s42" or "k-date" or "krighoff" and just watch this endless flood of invaluable info emerge. There is so much knowledge buried on the old board it would take weeks and weeks to mine it all. Fortunately, I have the time. My goal is to go through every post about Mauser Lugers and write down everything I can, for future study. Thanks again for saving it! Jimbo (If you are new to Lugers or to this forum, don't neglect the old board. It is a wealth of info that would have taken a lifetime to learn otherwise.)

10-16-2002, 08:35 AM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Sometimes I do, sometimes, I do a little more polish NOT to show marks in this area. Of course, he is right about the direction. Of course, when you pull the magazine on Lugers I have worked on, you will see those three little red marks inside the mag well, and then the direction doesnt seem to be so important as you know the gun has been restored. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

10-16-2002, 11:22 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	You are right Jimbo... saving that data was paramount when this new board was built... The old board was part of our growing pains, but at least the data was saved... It was more than a year of discussion. It is a real shame that the effort to convert the database to this format would be a monumental task... at least the data is there... It makes me cringe to think of how much Luger data WAS lost on the original Lugerforum discussion board that was hosted in Taiwan back in 1998... Once the screen was full, the old posts just vanished forever... That fact, and a very slow server response was the driving force in moving the board to the U.S. and changing the discussion format to one that archived all posts and was searchable... the only thing missing is some of the accompanying photos... Thanks John D. for providing such a home for such a wealth of information. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-17-2002, 01:58 AM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,164 Times in 1,700 Posts	Hey Wombat! Good to hear from you again. Wondered were you wandered off to. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-17-2002, 01:49 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Wombat: <strong>Yeah, I remember the old days of the funky Taiwan server! Even though I don't post much anymore, I still lurk around a bit. ---Wombat</strong><hr></blockquote> Don't post much anymore? This is your 1st since we changed formats... where the heck have you been Wombat? I saw your registration come through but wondered if you lost your way...I thought you might have sold your Luger collection to buy more air guns... [img]biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-16-2002, 12:29 AM	#2
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Holy cow! there is such good info here. I just stumbled on a thread by Pete Ebbink asking for a checklist of thing to check after purchasing a luger. Big Norm said, "Yah, I use a restorer who has shown me a few details that at first glance, I never noticed. Like have you ever noticed that on the receivers rear rabbit ear rails, on the right side the grind marks go vertical. The left side goes horizontal." Now here I am holding my byf41 and SURE ENOUGH, the raised portion on the right rear of the frame has abrasions straight up and down, while the left side has the abrasions horizontally, parallel to the bore axis. (Then my mind wanders and I begin to ponder if Thor maintains this pattern in his restorations...) Man, the things you learn from the arcane minutia on the old forum!

10-16-2002, 08:07 PM	#5
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi John S., The old format is a tiny price to pay for keeping all of that invaluable knowledge, otherwise lost. Some nuggets lost from the Taiwan site will never be recovered. But I am so grateful for all of the discussions saved on the old board. I am really learning. (And re-learning. Great refresher information there!) THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-16-2002, 08:11 PM	#6
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Ted, My compliments to you that you could remember that detail. I find it pretty arcane but being able to remember such things as right-side-vertical and left-side-horizontal is probably part of what makes your work so good. It sure is pretty. I keep looking for something in *BAD* enough shape to send to you but they seem very hard to find. I wouldn't want to re-blue anything with more than say 70% original finish. A funny evolution is ocurring within me, though. As I become more the collector and read more about the fascinating Luger variations, the level of finish I consider acceptable keeps going down. I may continue to evolve to where I find Lugers in the white too precious not to re-blue. Interesting evolution, huh? I still admire those who actually shoot their Lugers. After all, that is what they were made for!

10-17-2002, 01:07 AM	#7
Wombat User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, I remember the old days of the funky Taiwan server! Even though I don't post much anymore, I still lurk around a bit. ---Wombat

10-18-2002, 07:26 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Jimbo, Another treasure of the old Forum threads are the postings of a bunch of experts that used to pass on great info., but for various reasons (probably the bickering...) just tuned out... Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

10-18-2002, 08:13 PM	#11
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A sad loss, Pete. But some are still here and I deeply appreciate their invaluable knowledge. I just want to learn and to know about these fascinating guns. In the words of Chief Moose of Maryland, I hope the "disgrumbled" experts at least listen in once in a while and rest easy that some of us do this out of a passion and not for any quest for profit.

10-18-2002, 08:20 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV