Help I.D. Police Holster

gvt1911 · 04-30-2017, 10:06 AM

Friend has this holster for a long time. It appears to be a military holster converted to a police holster. Everything seems to be original and factory done. On the top flap there appears to be a "P08r." and the numbers 1885 right where the stud is installed. On the back of holster I can read "WWSu" over 1931 and then a Waffenamt Eagle under the 1931 date. Any info would be appreciated.

Don M · 05-01-2017, 11:42 AM

The mark under the stud could be P.P.Br. (Polizei-Präsidium Breslau) but I have never seen another such mark. Anything stamped on the right-rear?

ithacaartist · 05-01-2017, 01:07 PM

It's also a Military holster that was converted to Police configuration.

Edward Tinker · 05-01-2017, 01:58 PM

I have seldom to never seen one marked here either, whether army or police. And to have the stud there, I would say army marked ahead of the conversion.

You also don't see ones made in the 30's to be converted - in fact a 1931 date is pretty odd date too, army and police...

Don M · 05-01-2017, 02:10 PM

The back marking is WwSu. Spandau?

Edward Tinker · 05-01-2017, 03:00 PM

Don, it also looks like it is a SU waffen marking under the eagle?

gvt1911 · 05-01-2017, 04:46 PM

The mark under the stud could be P.P.Br. (Polizei-Präsidium Breslau) but I have never seen another such mark. Anything stamped on the right-rear?
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I believe Don M is correct...There are NO other markings on the holster anywhere...

MP38 · 05-21-2017, 11:22 AM

Very interesting rework holster. Can you read the waffenampt marking? What are the letters/numbers?

thanks
Matt

DonVoigt · 05-21-2017, 07:23 PM

Please show pictures with the flap open, inside, and of the back.

04-30-2017, 10:06 AM	#1
gvt1911 User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Mountains of SW Va. Posts: 57 Thanks: 59 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Help I.D. Police Holster Friend has this holster for a long time. It appears to be a military holster converted to a police holster. Everything seems to be original and factory done. On the top flap there appears to be a "P08r." and the numbers 1885 right where the stud is installed. On the back of holster I can read "WWSu" over 1931 and then a Waffenamt Eagle under the 1931 date. Any info would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

05-01-2017, 11:42 AM	#2
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	The mark under the stud could be P.P.Br. (Polizei-Präsidium Breslau) but I have never seen another such mark. Anything stamped on the right-rear? __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

05-01-2017, 01:07 PM	#3
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,282 Thanks: 7,007 Thanked 2,476 Times in 1,319 Posts	It's also a Military holster that was converted to Police configuration. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-01-2017, 01:58 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	I have seldom to never seen one marked here either, whether army or police. And to have the stud there, I would say army marked ahead of the conversion. You also don't see ones made in the 30's to be converted - in fact a 1931 date is pretty odd date too, army and police... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-01-2017, 02:10 PM	#5
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	The back marking is WwSu. Spandau? __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

05-01-2017, 03:00 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Don, it also looks like it is a SU waffen marking under the eagle?

05-01-2017, 04:46 PM	#7
gvt1911 User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Mountains of SW Va. Posts: 57 Thanks: 59 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	The mark under the stud could be P.P.Br. (Polizei-Präsidium Breslau) but I have never seen another such mark. Anything stamped on the right-rear? __________________ I believe Don M is correct...There are NO other markings on the holster anywhere...

05-21-2017, 11:22 AM	#8
MP38 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 464 Thanks: 36 Thanked 113 Times in 60 Posts	Very interesting rework holster. Can you read the waffenampt marking? What are the letters/numbers? thanks Matt

05-21-2017, 07:23 PM	#9
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Please show pictures with the flap open, inside, and of the back. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie