ww2 gun part

ripcord810 · 06-25-2013, 09:05 PM

I recently met a guy who used to own a pawn shop. He closed up about 10 years ago but has several items at his home he is wanting to sell. Today I was looking at some of the ww2 items he had and came across these parts in a box. I have no use for them but thought someone here might. He said all parts are matching numbers but I have not checked. He wouldnt give me a firm price but I believe I can get all for $200-$300.. If someone needs or wants them let me know and I will help get them to you. (sorry, this is the only pic I have right now)

sheepherder · 06-25-2013, 09:10 PM

Conversion 'kit' for M1919 machine gun, to make it a shoulder fired bipod mounted squad support MG...

That 'kit' is incomplete...

Also - Be aware that someone makes a dress-up kit for the Ruger 10/22 to make it look like an M1919A4/A6...

apis mellifera · 06-25-2013, 10:06 PM

I might be interested. Though I have most of the parts already, I could use a spare barrel. That said, as mentioned, it is incomplete. I don't think I would pay $200 for the parts.

Also, you might post some pictures of the rest of his stuff. The missing parts might be there.

sheepherder · 06-25-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by apis mellifera

I might be interested. Though I have most of the parts already, I could use a spare barrel...

Do you need the A4/A6 barrel or the M1919 30 cal barrel??? I have an Israeli M1919 barrel (not the A4/A6) that I believe is unfired...But it's been sitting in my basement for about 15 years...

I think these 'kits' are Israeli too...

apis mellifera · 06-25-2013, 10:29 PM

I have an Israeli .308 barrel. I'd like another and one in 30.06... and 8mm. I would like an A6 barrel too. I have the Israeli "A6" conversion kit, which is their bipod, the later carry handle, and the butt stock pictured above. I have the booster for the above kit (which is one of the missing parts), but it will not cycle my gun in .308.

I assume your barrel is in .308? Are you looking to part with it?

sheepherder · 06-25-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by apis mellifera

I assume your barrel is in .308? Are you looking to part with it?

Yes and yes. Marked "762, a couple Hebrew letters, and 2/74"... .308 cartridge fits nicely; Parkerized finish I think; bore is bright, shiny, and sharp; outer bearing surface wear show it was installed if not used...Shoot me an email/PM with your email & I'll send pics...

MikeP · 06-26-2013, 01:34 AM

I humped one of these for a while.
The term shoulder fired is somewhat of an exageration.
They are heavy and extremely uncomfortable to carry.
All hard edges and sharp corners.
Hard to believe the design persisted as they are complicated and finicky due to adjusting timing and headspace.
takes a few minutes or more plus tools to change a barrel.

jonnyc · 06-26-2013, 09:10 AM

Fortunately for me, the IDF had switched over fully to the MAG58 during my service. Very easy to use and fire, and not too terrible to carry. That 1919 looks like a nightmare to carry or roll around with.

sheepherder · 06-26-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeP

I humped one of these for a while.

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Originally Posted by jonnyc

Fortunately for me, the IDF had switched over fully to the MAG58 during my service.

A big Thank You! to both of you for your service!

I don't imagine field stripping & cleaning one of these in the desert is much fun...I have a WW II Aircrewman's Gunnery Manual which states the aircraft version (with spade grips) only weighs 20 pounds...Hahahahaha!!!

That's with 'straight' barrel; the M1919A4 seems to have a tapered barrel...But then they add the cooling shroud, carrying handle, bipod, and flash hider...

Still, it's got to be easier to hump this than an M2...

apis mellifera · 06-26-2013, 05:07 PM

The A4 has a straight barrel. The A6 has a tapered barrel. I just weighed my A4 and it is 31 pounds assembled and ready to go. It feels heavier. Of course, with the linked ammo to run it, it does get heavier.

I knew a Vet once that was a BAR man. He said, "Everybody wanted to shoot it, but nobody wanted to carry it."

alanint · 06-26-2013, 07:18 PM

The A4 barrel was made lighter for both portability as well as to increase the rate of fire. Remember that this contraption was in answer to the German MG34 and 42, which both awed and intimidated our WW2 front line troops.

This was an expedient, inadequate answer to these enemy light MGs and all we could field on very short notice.

06-25-2013, 09:05 PM	#1
ripcord810 User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 139 Thanks: 146 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	ww2 gun part I recently met a guy who used to own a pawn shop. He closed up about 10 years ago but has several items at his home he is wanting to sell. Today I was looking at some of the ww2 items he had and came across these parts in a box. I have no use for them but thought someone here might. He said all parts are matching numbers but I have not checked. He wouldnt give me a firm price but I believe I can get all for $200-$300.. If someone needs or wants them let me know and I will help get them to you. (sorry, this is the only pic I have right now) Attached Thumbnails

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06-25-2013, 10:06 PM	#3
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	I might be interested. Though I have most of the parts already, I could use a spare barrel. That said, as mentioned, it is incomplete. I don't think I would pay $200 for the parts. Also, you might post some pictures of the rest of his stuff. The missing parts might be there.

06-25-2013, 10:29 PM	#5
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	I have an Israeli .308 barrel. I'd like another and one in 30.06... and 8mm. I would like an A6 barrel too. I have the Israeli "A6" conversion kit, which is their bipod, the later carry handle, and the butt stock pictured above. I have the booster for the above kit (which is one of the missing parts), but it will not cycle my gun in .308. I assume your barrel is in .308? Are you looking to part with it?

06-26-2013, 01:34 AM	#7
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	I humped one of these for a while. The term shoulder fired is somewhat of an exageration. They are heavy and extremely uncomfortable to carry. All hard edges and sharp corners. Hard to believe the design persisted as they are complicated and finicky due to adjusting timing and headspace. takes a few minutes or more plus tools to change a barrel.

06-26-2013, 09:10 AM	#8
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Fortunately for me, the IDF had switched over fully to the MAG58 during my service. Very easy to use and fire, and not too terrible to carry. That 1919 looks like a nightmare to carry or roll around with.

06-26-2013, 05:07 PM	#10
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	The A4 has a straight barrel. The A6 has a tapered barrel. I just weighed my A4 and it is 31 pounds assembled and ready to go. It feels heavier. Of course, with the linked ammo to run it, it does get heavier. I knew a Vet once that was a BAR man. He said, "Everybody wanted to shoot it, but nobody wanted to carry it."

06-26-2013, 07:18 PM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The A4 barrel was made lighter for both portability as well as to increase the rate of fire. Remember that this contraption was in answer to the German MG34 and 42, which both awed and intimidated our WW2 front line troops. This was an expedient, inadequate answer to these enemy light MGs and all we could field on very short notice.