Winchester WinClean 244 Powder

Karl · 10-21-2021, 12:34 PM

Has anyone had experience with Winchester WinClean 244 powder for 9 mm/115 gr. bullet? .357 mag./158 gr. bullet? My usual powder, Power Pistol, is not available and I'm looking for available options.

KFS

Sieger · 10-25-2021, 05:43 AM

Karl,

Why isn't Power Pistol available to you; as several sources list it available and in stock.

I have never heard of the powder you listed:WinClean 244. Do you know its approximate burning rate?

Thanks!

Sieger

Karl · 10-25-2021, 10:14 AM

Sieger,

Burn rate is similar to W 231. Here is the Hodgdon link:
https://shop.hodgdon.com/winchester/...r-winclean-244

Where is Power Pistol available?

KFS

Sieger · 10-26-2021, 06:11 PM

Karl,

About 45 days ago, I checked my three usual sources for Power Pistol powder, and they all three had it in stock. As of yesterday, they all three were, indeed, out of stock!!!

Good luck to you!

Sieger

Karl · 10-26-2021, 07:16 PM

Sieger,

Now the Win 244 is out of stock too. Until this shortage is over, I think that we are all going to get creative with our loads. Thank goodness I still have a decent supply of Blue Dot and Red Dot. Unfortunately, I passed on the opportunity to stock up on Goex black powder - now it's gone forever. Lesson learned: There is no such thing as too much gunpowder.

KFS

Eugen · 10-27-2021, 11:52 PM

I am not familiar with Win244. I wonder if it is one of those clean burning powders like CFE Pistol. I mostly use that and Win231. I'm have an adequate supply of powder, projectes and primers...only because I have really slowed down my shooting and reloading activities for the last two years.

Sieger · 10-28-2021, 09:49 PM

Karl,

If you check on the GunBroker site. there are two very good alternatives for sale at "reasonable" prices.

Ramshot's True Blue and Hodgdon's HS-6 are both listed for approximately $32.00 to $37.00 per pound. They also list Power Pistol, but at approximantly $85.00 per pound.

Respectfully,

Sieger

Karl · 10-29-2021, 10:24 AM

Sieger,

Thanks. I never thought of looking for powder on Gunbroker. For the time being, I plan to use Blue Dot when I run out of Power Pistol.

KFS

rhuff · 10-29-2021, 03:41 PM

If it were me, and I had both Blue and Red Dot powders (which I keep a good supply of both), I would be more prone to use the Blue Dot for the 357Mag loads, and the Red Dot for the 9mm loads. Again, just my opinion.

Doubs · 10-29-2021, 05:46 PM

As I type this, Powder Valley has Winchester 244 in stock in both 1 and 8 pounds. The 1 pound containers are $26.25 and 8 pounds is $184. They only have two 8 pound containers left.

sheepherder · 10-29-2021, 07:42 PM

Here's a burning rate chart that shows where Winchester 244 compares to other brands/powders...

https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/upl...rate-chart.pdf

10-21-2021, 12:34 PM	#1
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 266 Times in 116 Posts	Winchester WinClean 244 Powder Has anyone had experience with Winchester WinClean 244 powder for 9 mm/115 gr. bullet? .357 mag./158 gr. bullet? My usual powder, Power Pistol, is not available and I'm looking for available options. KFS

10-27-2021, 11:52 PM	#6
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 392 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	I am not familiar with Win244. I wonder if it is one of those clean burning powders like CFE Pistol. I mostly use that and Win231. I'm have an adequate supply of powder, projectes and primers...only because I have really slowed down my shooting and reloading activities for the last two years. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

10-29-2021, 03:41 PM	#9
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,289 Thanks: 2,707 Thanked 971 Times in 716 Posts	If it were me, and I had both Blue and Red Dot powders (which I keep a good supply of both), I would be more prone to use the Blue Dot for the 357Mag loads, and the Red Dot for the 9mm loads. Again, just my opinion. __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

10-29-2021, 07:42 PM	#11
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Here's a burning rate chart that shows where Winchester 244 compares to other brands/powders... https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/upl...rate-chart.pdf __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

10-25-2021, 05:43 AM	#2
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Karl, Why isn't Power Pistol available to you; as several sources list it available and in stock. I have never heard of the powder you listed:WinClean 244. Do you know its approximate burning rate? Thanks! Sieger

10-25-2021, 10:14 AM	#3
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 266 Times in 116 Posts	Sieger, Burn rate is similar to W 231. Here is the Hodgdon link: https://shop.hodgdon.com/winchester/...r-winclean-244 Where is Power Pistol available? KFS

10-26-2021, 06:11 PM	#4
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Karl, About 45 days ago, I checked my three usual sources for Power Pistol powder, and they all three had it in stock. As of yesterday, they all three were, indeed, out of stock!!! Good luck to you! Sieger

10-26-2021, 07:16 PM	#5
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 266 Times in 116 Posts	Sieger, Now the Win 244 is out of stock too. Until this shortage is over, I think that we are all going to get creative with our loads. Thank goodness I still have a decent supply of Blue Dot and Red Dot. Unfortunately, I passed on the opportunity to stock up on Goex black powder - now it's gone forever. Lesson learned: There is no such thing as too much gunpowder. KFS

10-28-2021, 09:49 PM	#7
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Karl, If you check on the GunBroker site. there are two very good alternatives for sale at "reasonable" prices. Ramshot's True Blue and Hodgdon's HS-6 are both listed for approximately $32.00 to $37.00 per pound. They also list Power Pistol, but at approximantly $85.00 per pound. Respectfully, Sieger

10-29-2021, 10:24 AM	#8
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 266 Times in 116 Posts	Sieger, Thanks. I never thought of looking for powder on Gunbroker. For the time being, I plan to use Blue Dot when I run out of Power Pistol. KFS

10-29-2021, 05:46 PM	#10
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,696 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,679 Times in 552 Posts	As I type this, Powder Valley has Winchester 244 in stock in both 1 and 8 pounds. The 1 pound containers are $26.25 and 8 pounds is $184. They only have two 8 pound containers left.