Post war Mauser question

unspellable · 10-22-2002, 01:10 PM

Guess I managed to put this in the wrong place the first time. Any way, the questions is:

I have heard stories of Mauser assembling Lugers from parts for the French in the period immediately after the war. Any body know anything about this?

mauro · 10-22-2002, 03:43 PM

Dear unspellable,
April the 20 1945, the first French soldier occupied the Oberndorf city. The Mauser firm started to produce Parabellum under French control.
According to August Weiss, responsable of Mauser gun and pistol production up to 1945, in thsi period the following guns were produced:
47696 K98 carabines,
6375 .22lr carabines,
3500 P38,
20000 HsC pistols,
2560 Parabellum

A little number of LP08 was made and give as a gift to important army officiers.

In my book concerning Luger Artillery history I wrote a section concerning this rare item.

In the picture, from "La gazette des armes", an interesting set of P08 and LP08.

I hope help you.

Ciao

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/FrenchPara.jpg

John Sabato · 10-22-2002, 04:44 PM

Ciao Mauro!

What a great photograph of these French Luger examples!

I can hardly wait for your book to be printed.

unspellable · 10-23-2002, 01:09 PM

How do we identify the post war assembly French Mausers? As oppoosed to other Mausers manufactured near the end of production in June 1942? What calibers were the French Mausers made in? Do They bear any German military type markings?

mauro · 10-23-2002, 04:00 PM

It is possible to find "French" P08 with or w/o date on the chamber. Usually the military marks are not present. On the right site a star is present with 3 digits. It is possible to find, also, a eagle/N insted of the star. There are some other little differences. Usually all pistol parts are black. The quality is not so good.
These pistol were used by French army and "Gendarmerie" (Military police) up to 1960.
The caliber is 9mm.
I tried to contact Army archives in order to have some documents for my book but the answer was that this archive are not maintained so it was very difficult to find documentation (!!!).
The picture presented here is fro "La gazette des armes".
Let me know if you need some other info.
Ciao

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/FrenchPara1.jpg

10-22-2002, 01:10 PM	#1
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 767 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Post war Mauser question Guess I managed to put this in the wrong place the first time. Any way, the questions is: I have heard stories of Mauser assembling Lugers from parts for the French in the period immediately after the war. Any body know anything about this?

10-22-2002, 03:43 PM	#2
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Dear unspellable, April the 20 1945, the first French soldier occupied the Oberndorf city. The Mauser firm started to produce Parabellum under French control. According to August Weiss, responsable of Mauser gun and pistol production up to 1945, in thsi period the following guns were produced: 47696 K98 carabines, 6375 .22lr carabines, 3500 P38, 20000 HsC pistols, 2560 Parabellum A little number of LP08 was made and give as a gift to important army officiers. In my book concerning Luger Artillery history I wrote a section concerning this rare item. In the picture, from "La gazette des armes", an interesting set of P08 and LP08. I hope help you. Ciao http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/FrenchPara.jpg __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

10-22-2002, 04:44 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ciao Mauro! What a great photograph of these French Luger examples! I can hardly wait for your book to be printed. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-23-2002, 04:00 PM	#5
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	It is possible to find "French" P08 with or w/o date on the chamber. Usually the military marks are not present. On the right site a star is present with 3 digits. It is possible to find, also, a eagle/N insted of the star. There are some other little differences. Usually all pistol parts are black. The quality is not so good. These pistol were used by French army and "Gendarmerie" (Military police) up to 1960. The caliber is 9mm. I tried to contact Army archives in order to have some documents for my book but the answer was that this archive are not maintained so it was very difficult to find documentation (!!!). The picture presented here is fro "La gazette des armes". Let me know if you need some other info. Ciao http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/FrenchPara1.jpg __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

10-23-2002, 01:09 PM	#4
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 767 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	How do we identify the post war assembly French Mausers? As oppoosed to other Mausers manufactured near the end of production in June 1942? What calibers were the French Mausers made in? Do They bear any German military type markings?