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Hugh · 04-04-2002, 03:05 PM

Deaths Head badge, or a piece of junk? It is supposed to be German according to the purveyor. Size is 1 1/8" high by 1 1/4" wide.

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/dh3.jpg

Herb · 04-04-2002, 03:45 PM

Hugh, looks like a reproduction to me. The prongs are too long, they only need to be long enough to penetrate the cap, about 1/2" long, and they are usually made of stiff steel. Looks like aluminum, should be silver, and without seeing the teeth, it is hard to tell. The teeth should be very distinct, in two even rows, if not it is a repro and worth about $25.00 or so. A real on e goes for around $100.

04-04-2002, 03:52 PM

Hi Hugh........1934 pattern Totenkopf were silver plated die struck out of tombak and silver plated with a hallmark RZM M1/52 this is the code for Deschler & Sohn, Munchen. From 1936 the Totenkoph was struck in aluminum then zinc alloyed and the new code numbers were replaced with SS/RZM contract numbers, this info was taken from Detecting the fakes by Robin Lumsden.hope this helps Leo

Marvin · 04-04-2002, 04:37 PM

Hugh,

My humble opinion is that it is a fake!

Marvin

Hugh · 04-04-2002, 07:26 PM

I figured it was fake, has no hallmark on back, but what the heck only cost me $11.

Jesse · 04-04-2002, 07:36 PM

Not all of them are hallmarked, I have found that DH early and late that came from the collar tabs have no hallmarks. I have an early SS/Panzer DE that I know to be real and it is not hallmarked.

Joe · 04-04-2002, 07:44 PM

For $11.00 you can't go wrong buying that DH. Even if just to have one.

I have a repo DH that is very similar to the one displayed in your photo. At least you didn't pay $100 for a "real" one.

Joe

04-04-2002, 03:05 PM	#1
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Is this a real Deaths Head badge, or a piece of junk? It is supposed to be German according to the purveyor. Size is 1 1/8" high by 1 1/4" wide. http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/dh3.jpg

04-04-2002, 03:45 PM	#2
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Is this a real Hugh, looks like a reproduction to me. The prongs are too long, they only need to be long enough to penetrate the cap, about 1/2" long, and they are usually made of stiff steel. Looks like aluminum, should be silver, and without seeing the teeth, it is hard to tell. The teeth should be very distinct, in two even rows, if not it is a repro and worth about $25.00 or so. A real on e goes for around $100.

04-04-2002, 03:52 PM	#3
Leo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is this a real Hi Hugh........1934 pattern Totenkopf were silver plated die struck out of tombak and silver plated with a hallmark RZM M1/52 this is the code for Deschler & Sohn, Munchen. From 1936 the Totenkoph was struck in aluminum then zinc alloyed and the new code numbers were replaced with SS/RZM contract numbers, this info was taken from Detecting the fakes by Robin Lumsden.hope this helps Leo

04-04-2002, 04:37 PM	#4
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is this a real Hugh, My humble opinion is that it is a fake! Marvin

04-04-2002, 07:26 PM	#5
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Is this a real I figured it was fake, has no hallmark on back, but what the heck only cost me $11.

04-04-2002, 07:36 PM	#6
Jesse User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW VA Posts: 103 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Is this a real Not all of them are hallmarked, I have found that DH early and late that came from the collar tabs have no hallmarks. I have an early SS/Panzer DE that I know to be real and it is not hallmarked.

04-04-2002, 07:44 PM	#7
Joe User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 96 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is this a real For $11.00 you can't go wrong buying that DH. Even if just to have one. I have a repo DH that is very similar to the one displayed in your photo. At least you didn't pay $100 for a "real" one. Joe