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I have an interest in a luger for sale and have been researching exactly what it actually is; it's a personal friend selling , so time is not really an issue. Been doing a lot of reading but have hit a roadblock.
I have used the links and info on here to ID the Luger as an "Alphabet Commercial"- 30cal made by DWM - it has a four digit serial number with suffix and all the other markings described on this forum (and other places). Now, on to the "I am stumped" part ![]() I see a lot of "post the markings and pics' responses... I would really like to know where/what the reference material is...versus being told....hence the "teach a man to fish" reference ![]() Thanks |
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Determine the year by the suffix. We can pin it down, but not down to the day, or week. Month... maybe. Buy a book. A chart is in Still's Weimar Lugers.
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Actually, just the year would be awesome. I would be interested to know the year and if you can tell me; the reference?
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Tell me the suffix, Jan Still's, Weimar and early Lugers". 1993. You'll see them for sale hee every once in a while
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Dang, the suffix is R...I put it in the subject and left it out the actual post....sigh....been a long day.
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AH! Ok, I saw it just as your answer came in....LOL Pg. 15. R series was about the last 3/4 of 1928. So, 10,000 to a block and assuming a steady, constant production rate, you can pin the month down a little closer by your serial number
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Very cool. Not sure I understand all of your reply though. If you have enough patience, I would appreciate a little education.
In reference to the statement "Pg. 15." R series was about the last 3/4 of 1928. What does "Pg. 15." refer to? Magic Luger Book page 15? ![]() 10,000 to a block - - a block is the production run...when they hit 10000 they started over at 1 with another suffix, is that correct? Thanks - BTW, well moderated forum you guys have here...read quite a few thread...seems like all adults ![]() |
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Pg 15 is the aforementioned book, Weimar Lugers. Correct on the block. They started at #1, went to 10,000 then started again with 1A, etc. The unsuffixed block is called ns, ' no suffix '. Earlier lugers used a 5 digit number. All the military used the 4 digit plus suffix. Eventually this numbering system come the the commercial ones also. All the letters were used except J.
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Tex, it would be helpful and great to see pictures of this luger. Many times a person has a luger and it is mismatched, or is nickled or by gum, is SIMPLY not a luger.
So, full serial number, etc on it. There are thousands of lugers that were cleaned up and don't have a date and then was sold on the commercial market. So, simply us assuming that it is a commercial alphabet luger is not always true ![]() So, in my library, here in Iraq (which weighed about 40 lbs), I have 5 luger books. The best all around are Jan Still's books, and for what yours sounds like, Weimar Lugers by Jan is the book you need. At home, I have another 10-12 luger books, 5 or 6 P38 books, etc; knowledge is everything and although many folks rely on the internet, I personally like to hold and touch and look up information. Ed
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I wouldn't be surprised if Jan Still's working title for Weimar Lugers was Magic Luger Book.
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Steven,
Your initial post indicated that you want the value of your friend's Luger. With pictures, the group here can help you with that. There is a great variation in Luger prices depending on a large number of factors. $400 - Sky's the Limit... If you have an all matching 1923 Alphabet DWM (Commercial) luger in 7.65 Luger, and it's in the original finish and undamaged it's value is probably in the $700 range - more or less depending on condition. Marc
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