commercial vopo

lugersrkewl · 04-08-2012, 10:58 PM

I came across this

LUGER P08 1939 BANNER COMMERCIAL, EAST GERMAN REWORK W/MATCHING EAST GERMAN MAG, NOT IMPORT MARKED, FORCED MATCHED W/S.Ar.II.111 GRIPSRAP MARKINGS, 98%

item 111 2nd precinct municipal police arnyberg

no pics no mention of bore condition almost 900 shipped and ffld.

any comments would be apprecemetated as far as quality , price, coolness factor of police marks, rareity of particular precint etc.

IT is an honor to have this forum as a rescource full of fellow luger enthusiasts and the people who wrote the books on these pistoles.
thankyou

Vlim · 04-09-2012, 06:32 AM

Judging from the descriptions, it sounds like a typical force-matched DDR pistol. The frame with police markings is probably a lot earlier than the Mauser banner toggle / receiver. Normally the receiver is force matched to the original frame number.

Photos would help

sheepherder · 04-09-2012, 11:32 AM

I have a VoPo refurb P38 that was 'dipped' [little or no buffing] and I think they did an excellent job on the re-blueing...but others have said theirs look like it was dipped in tar...

lugersrkewl · 04-09-2012, 12:30 PM

thanks fellas how about the price? seems like high retail to me

alvin · 04-09-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugersrkewl

thanks fellas how about the price? seems like high retail to me

How much is the asking price? High or low can be figured out by comparing with other Lugers on the market.

alvin · 04-09-2012, 01:27 PM

I would suggest passing it. $900 is not lots of money, but saving two $900 could buy a very nice Luger nowadays. For example, stainless Mitchell $650 + Vopo $900 = $1550, it's a very nice Luger's money.

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Of course, if collecting VoPo, that's different story. I always feel that VoPo, Swiss etc are for advanced collectors, who already got other 'plain' stuffs, and need a place to expand their experience and collection.... For newcomers,,,, probably not.

GySgt1811 · 04-09-2012, 04:32 PM

lugersrkewl,

Is that the one Checkpoint Charlie has up for sale? No pics on his either.

John

lugersrkewl · 04-09-2012, 05:30 PM

yes sir, it seems like hes about the fairest priced retailer around then r guns is second imho

forgot to mention Im just looking for a shooter in 9mm not collectible for awhile.

alvin · 04-09-2012, 05:48 PM

Since we are talking this,,,, if two 'shooters' are shootable individually, why one 'collectible' with equivalent value are not shootable? Collector may choose not shooting it, that's a personal choice.... but it's definitely shootable.

GySgt1811 · 04-09-2012, 06:15 PM

lugersrkewl,

Just curious. I bought the "lipstick looger" he had for sale a month ago. All told, I've bought two lugers and an early 1894 Winchester from Charlie over the past two years. He is easy to talk to on the phone (as opposed to the toaster?) and helpful. The products have been well described and generally better than expected. Good luck. I'd love to see it if'n you decide to get it. Just my $.02!

Regards,

John

alvin · 04-09-2012, 09:36 PM

If seller is checkpointcharlies.com, things become simple. He can take the pictures and send to your email. You can ask him to give a text description as well. He's knowledgeable and honest.

04-08-2012, 10:58 PM	#1
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	commercial vopo I came across this LUGER P08 1939 BANNER COMMERCIAL, EAST GERMAN REWORK W/MATCHING EAST GERMAN MAG, NOT IMPORT MARKED, FORCED MATCHED W/S.Ar.II.111 GRIPSRAP MARKINGS, 98% item 111 2nd precinct municipal police arnyberg no pics no mention of bore condition almost 900 shipped and ffld. any comments would be apprecemetated as far as quality , price, coolness factor of police marks, rareity of particular precint etc. IT is an honor to have this forum as a rescource full of fellow luger enthusiasts and the people who wrote the books on these pistoles. thankyou

04-09-2012, 11:32 AM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	I have a VoPo refurb P38 that was 'dipped' [little or no buffing] and I think they did an excellent job on the re-blueing...but others have said theirs look like it was dipped in tar... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-09-2012, 06:32 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Judging from the descriptions, it sounds like a typical force-matched DDR pistol. The frame with police markings is probably a lot earlier than the Mauser banner toggle / receiver. Normally the receiver is force matched to the original frame number. Photos would help

04-09-2012, 12:30 PM	#4
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	thanks fellas how about the price? seems like high retail to me

04-09-2012, 01:27 PM	#6
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I would suggest passing it. $900 is not lots of money, but saving two $900 could buy a very nice Luger nowadays. For example, stainless Mitchell $650 + Vopo $900 = $1550, it's a very nice Luger's money. === Of course, if collecting VoPo, that's different story. I always feel that VoPo, Swiss etc are for advanced collectors, who already got other 'plain' stuffs, and need a place to expand their experience and collection.... For newcomers,,,, probably not.

04-09-2012, 04:32 PM	#7
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	lugersrkewl, Is that the one Checkpoint Charlie has up for sale? No pics on his either. John

04-09-2012, 05:30 PM	#8
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	yes sir, it seems like hes about the fairest priced retailer around then r guns is second imho forgot to mention Im just looking for a shooter in 9mm not collectible for awhile.

04-09-2012, 05:48 PM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Since we are talking this,,,, if two 'shooters' are shootable individually, why one 'collectible' with equivalent value are not shootable? Collector may choose not shooting it, that's a personal choice.... but it's definitely shootable.

04-09-2012, 06:15 PM	#10
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	lugersrkewl, Just curious. I bought the "lipstick looger" he had for sale a month ago. All told, I've bought two lugers and an early 1894 Winchester from Charlie over the past two years. He is easy to talk to on the phone (as opposed to the toaster?) and helpful. The products have been well described and generally better than expected. Good luck. I'd love to see it if'n you decide to get it. Just my $.02! Regards, John

04-09-2012, 09:36 PM	#11
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	If seller is checkpointcharlies.com, things become simple. He can take the pictures and send to your email. You can ask him to give a text description as well. He's knowledgeable and honest.