1920 American Eagle with 6 inch bbl

bruce4guns · 03-18-2017, 01:29 PM

Gents: Just picked up this gun in about 95 to 98 % from a guy in central florida original finish and I am a bit confused. The gun has a 6 inch (navy bbl) not serial numbered but proofed and marked Germany. The gun does not have navy style sights. BBl Crown N proofed and marked made in Germany. the Frame Marked Germany as is the upper frame assembly. DWM marked American Eagle on the chamber area and 9 mm caliber. Wood magazine bottom marked Germany. I know this is the era where anything is possible, but what do I have and what is it worth? It is all original and not refinished including straw. Barrel is excellent. Took pics on my I phone, but cannot figure out how to up load them.
Just got a 1906 9mm Luger American Eagle also but that is the next topic of discussion as it is really interesting. Help please and do tell me how to upload pics if it will help.
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bruce4guns · 03-18-2017, 01:31 PM

Serial number77xx but bble not serial numbered all other numbers match last two digits

ithacaartist · 03-18-2017, 01:45 PM

Stoeger and other importers would commonly custom install different, longer barrels.

bruce4guns · 03-18-2017, 01:54 PM

Much appreciated and goes along way to understand why the bbl is not serial numbered even though it is marked made in Germany and has been on the gun forever. Nice American Eagle in great shape but a lot of things to learn from it. Thanks again.

George Anderson · 03-18-2017, 03:02 PM

The barrel is marked "GERMANY" because it was shipped as a seperate part.

Edward Tinker · 03-18-2017, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson

The barrel is marked "GERMANY" because it was shipped as a seperate part.

that is even better, as that means it was made and ordered from Germany not added here.

George Anderson · 03-18-2017, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

that is even better, as that means it was made and ordered from Germany not added here.

No, just the opposite. The barrel and pistol were shipped
separately. Just like the 1920s magazines marked "GERMANY", they were so marked because they were separate when shipped. All singular items had to be marked with country of origin.

DavidJayUden · 03-18-2017, 05:44 PM

Were American Eagle guns common amongst the late commercials? I haven't seen that chamber marking post 1906.
dju

DonVoigt · 03-18-2017, 05:56 PM

Let's wait for the pictures to decide what it is-
A barrel marked "Germany" could have been installed any time between about 1920 and last week!

Value,
what did you just pay for it?

Dwight Gruber · 03-19-2017, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Were American Eagle guns common amongst the late commercials? I haven't seen that chamber marking post 1906.
dju

All P08 Commercials and all post-war Lugers are found without the American Eagle, except for Stoeger-marked imports. There are a handful of commercial database reports of AE in the Alphabet Commercial range; these are mostly assembled guns of unknown origin.

I have examined two examples of post-war commercials purporting to be authentic AEs, both were fake (I bought one for the example).

I am confident in the original statement, but would very much like to find originals to prove me wrong. Any post-war non-Stoeger American Eagle needs to br examined closely and critically.

--Dwight

03-18-2017, 01:29 PM	#1
bruce4guns User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1920 American Eagle with 6 inch bbl Gents: Just picked up this gun in about 95 to 98 % from a guy in central florida original finish and I am a bit confused. The gun has a 6 inch (navy bbl) not serial numbered but proofed and marked Germany. The gun does not have navy style sights. BBl Crown N proofed and marked made in Germany. the Frame Marked Germany as is the upper frame assembly. DWM marked American Eagle on the chamber area and 9 mm caliber. Wood magazine bottom marked Germany. I know this is the era where anything is possible, but what do I have and what is it worth? It is all original and not refinished including straw. Barrel is excellent. Took pics on my I phone, but cannot figure out how to up load them. Just got a 1906 9mm Luger American Eagle also but that is the next topic of discussion as it is really interesting. Help please and do tell me how to upload pics if it will help. bruce4guns@aol.com

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,283 Thanks: 7,011 Thanked 2,478 Times in 1,320 Posts	Stoeger and other importers would commonly custom install different, longer barrels. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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bruce4guns User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	You help Much appreciated and goes along way to understand why the bbl is not serial numbered even though it is marked made in Germany and has been on the gun forever. Nice American Eagle in great shape but a lot of things to learn from it. Thanks again.

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Let's wait for the pictures to decide what it is- A barrel marked "Germany" could have been installed any time between about 1920 and last week! Value, what did you just pay for it? __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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bruce4guns User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Serial number77xx but bble not serial numbered all other numbers match last two digits

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George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,771 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	The barrel is marked "GERMANY" because it was shipped as a seperate part.

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Were American Eagle guns common amongst the late commercials? I haven't seen that chamber marking post 1906. dju